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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 21:39:50 GMT -6
I don't know WHY you would come to that conclusion, but you need to lighten up. Don't make this a repeat of what happened the other day in the off-topics section. Miriam is female, therefore romance is possible. I'd prefer there not be a romance subplot in an Igavania game. My opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't even have a conclusion other than I agreed with your opinion, just not the logic behind it, and nothing I said had even a hint of being upset, clearly you are afraid of an argument, even a constructive one, so I will drop it. But please don't try and make me look like I'm at fault here somehow for trying to respectfully trying to debate...There is no debate rule on the forums, and you have not expressed any sensitivity on the subject until now. I also am unaware of any wrongdoing on my part in the offtopics section, should you wish to point it out in private or public feel free to do so. But I cannot promise to avoid repeating something when I don't even know what it is that apparently upset you. edit: You made a new post, I don't disagree with any of your reasons there, I agree, romance seems out of place for those reasons. I just disagreed about Miriam's gender having anything to do with anything =P, and I don't mean that in a 'but what about male/male' way. But yeah, just wanted to mention I'm not even disagreeing with those either.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 20:57:10 GMT -6
I have castle crashers on my ps3, and played it enough. It was fun while it lasted but I'm kind at the need to be in the mood for it specifically to enjoy it phase now. Frozen synapse did look interesting to me, but last time I was in the mood for it it wasn't on sale and was too pricy for my tastes (Not saying that they ask for too much, just that my own wallet is limited and I simply wait for really good deals instead of just good ones).
Anyway, I have a reasonable library on steam, and I play most of everything on there. I'm always excited during sales, and I normally always benefit from them, but I'm not one of those people who buy like 30 games during a sale, normally only 2-3. This time I bought Age of wonders 3 because I like AoW and it's hard to say no to -75% to a game I know I'll love. Prison architect because it looked interesting and fact is I'll likely never see a greater deal than -85% off, and I tried xenonauts, but used steam's new refund policy on it because the game didn't really work well for me. My problem was I could walk into a new room or open area and the black 'you can't see this area yet' paint wouldn't display the room still even when I was literally INSIDE the area, and not just around the corner or behind the door. Happened to me 3 times in like 40 minutes so I said screw it, this game doesn't wanna work for me I quit.. and it is like version 1.6 or something IIRC, it should have been fixed by like 0.8, so nope, refund =P
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 20:49:24 GMT -6
Beta is already confirmed to be out for next year's E3. Oh I didn't realize/forgot...But even if it is I wouldn't say it's set in stone yet. 9/10 games I look forward to has its initial release estimate off
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 20:43:10 GMT -6
I really don't think Miriam will have a romance interest. That doesn't seem like something Iga would add in. Just because the main character is female doesn't mean there should be one. Shanoa doesn't have one. Maria doesn't have one. Charlotte doesn't have one. And imo, it wouldn't fit in with the game's style, just like how it wouldn't fit in with a Metroid game. Again, I dont' care if it has one or not, and frankly, I expect there to be no romantic subplot. But who the heck said there should be one 'just because the main character is female'? It's not like every game with romantic subplots have a female MC...In fact I think it's MORE common for a male MC to have a romantic subplot than a female MC. I don't disagree with your opinion, I just disagree with your reasoning behind it. Simply having a romantic subplot doesn't weaken a character, regardless of them being male or female, so why make it sound like it would? I think it would be nice if there were more games with female MCs that DID have a romantic subplot without politically correct police shaming people for somehow affiliating that with some kind of accusation of somehow treating female MC as less heroic or whatever. I'm NOT saying you are such a person mind you, just that the way you brought up miriam's gender to begin with has nothing to do with it, and if someone DOES want a romantic subplot, I don't think it would be fair to assume they wanted it just cuz they think women need romance or some silly notion like that. I'm scared someone will take offense to this post, please read it the most amicable way you can, I'm merely trying to encourage acceptance, nothing more.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 20:34:46 GMT -6
I too doubt we'll get one, and as for the beta test, I'm on the 'hopefully we'll get the beta by 2016", but not hopeful in a expectant sense, just a wishful thinking sense.
Also bear in mind that 2017 was the planned release date when the KS barely began, it may take even longer since they have to add so much additional stuff to it thanks to all the stretch goals we got. Not to mention the multitude of platforms, and work on the prequel game, and classic mode, and and and...yeah
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 0:14:15 GMT -6
I never played SoC yet. One time I saw a friend borrow it from another friend and play it while I was playing Dungeons and dragons with some other friends and...I saw absolutely nothing except the poor guy wandering around aimlessly on horseback, with seemingly no clues or enemies or towns or nothing. That's part of the greatness that is SOTC!! The game doesn't hold your hand through completion. You get a couple clues to find and defeat each Colossi...the sword shines and targets their location. The world is absolutely gorgeous and even better in HD. Yeah, like I said, I never played the game before, never seen the game before, and was actually playing dungeons and dragons, so if the game told you about shining swords or whatever I didn't know it. I can appreciate a game doesn't hold hands more than most people but fact is if you weren't aware of such a mechanic, wandering around aimlessly without a CLUE (not talking about hand-holding you to your destination, but no clue at all) would make a dumb game =P
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 22, 2015 0:09:31 GMT -6
yeah I was just going to say I hope they don't pull off the tired old the good ally is actually the bad guy and the bad guy is actually the victim 'twist'. About earlier in this thread, I personally don't care if miriam has a romance substory or not. But I object to the notion that just because if she has one means she 'needed' one. Why is it when a man has a romantic interest in a game it's a romantic interest, but if a woman has one it's supposed to mean something offensive. I mean if she acts like a useless tool and needs a man to do everything for her, ok yeah that would be annoying, but I don't think that's going to happen, and certainly wouldn't assume such just because the game had some kind of romantic sub-plot.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 20, 2015 18:13:52 GMT -6
Beta's are quite simply builds of a game that are designed to be stable builds before a game's official release. This is a pretty loose definition, so you end up with varied examples. Back in the 90s or so, betas were not really advertised or anticipated by consumers. OCCASIONALLY a game would have a beta test, but because the internet wasn't quite as every day among every person, they weren't exactly common occurances in games. Sometimes a beta is released because developers want to make sure a game is stable before they go out and try to sell it. Sometimes it's released KNOWING it still has issues, but released so people can find more while they are still fixing them....And nowdays, they are frequently released mostly as an advertisement for the actual game, and the actual quality control is kind of an excuse. You can normally tell this is the case when they have a specified release date before or as soon as beta testing starts. They don't know how long it will take to find and fix all the bugs, but they want to release it anyway in 2 weeks after the beta... yeah, it's actually just advertising.
Because the beta is often used for different purposes (Despite its original purpose being solid), the amount of content found in beta's also varies. Diablo 3's beta for example was really stingy in the amount of content it offered... You didn't even get chapter 1, not even half of chapter 1, you just got to kill the first miniboss and that's it. Honestly I don't know what the POINT of dialo 3's beta was. I'll just chalk it down to mindless dumbness caused by that lead director dude who got ousted before loot 2.0 which fixed tons of the game. I mean the dude even said that they had a 'real' beta that wasn't shared that they were testing and balancing the game by, and that they mostly ignored the consumer beta, he actually said that, not once, but regularly.
Then there were betas for starcraft 1, which as far as I recall, had pretty much the whole game. MMO games that use beta's as advertisements typically use betas as a full game as well prior to a significant update.. so for example during the beta they might have a level cap of 30, and release it might go to 40, and over time it'll goto 50 and 60.. so the beta is in fact pretty much a full release behind 1 major update kinda deal.
In the case of Blooodstained, I anticipate it's beta will be the type that releases mostly the entire game as far as its development is concerned, and will be done mostly to fix bugs. It will probably lack certain game modes at first, but they may be implemented later. The reason why is because bloodstained's beta as far as I know, is not being used to advertise the game, because the only people who so far have been promised access to it, are people who have already committed to owning the game on release, so why bother advertising it to them only?
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 20, 2015 17:55:27 GMT -6
I never played SoC yet. One time I saw a friend borrow it from another friend and play it while I was playing Dungeons and dragons with some other friends and...I saw absolutely nothing except the poor guy wandering around aimlessly on horseback, with seemingly no clues or enemies or towns or nothing.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 19, 2015 21:55:41 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people with very negative opinions about E3, myself being one of them. I'm not talking about this e3 in particular, or the games showcased in them, just the event itself. I can be interested in games that were at e3, but almost never BECAUSE of e3, I just don't trust it worth a dang, kinda like many gamers don't trust lots of professional game reviewers.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 19, 2015 21:52:43 GMT -6
Yeah I wasn't really saying that with feasibility in mind, just wishful thinking.. but that said IIRC there was some kind of xenosaga remake crowdfund proposal Is aw like a year ago, not sure what happened to it. They weren't really specific if they just were going to remaster the games or if they would try to re-do them to be complete.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 19, 2015 21:47:53 GMT -6
just wondering who is exited about Asynchronous Multiplayer? As mentioned I'm kinda interested but not excited direclty because I don't really know what exactly we'll get. Frankly I have no interest in co-op mode or anything, but async multiplayer is more interesting to me. I rarely get to play games with people so having some kind of online multiplayer component that doesn't actually require someone else playing with me would be better for me.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 19, 2015 14:03:59 GMT -6
oh yeah, about xenogears. I'd like to see them do xenosaga properly. ep3 was a great game but it still didn't do the series justice when it was supposed to have 6 parts or whatever. I think it's really stupid how they decided to rush-complete the whole IP into one game with ep3 because they decided that people weren't interested enough after they screwed it up with 2. I say this as one of the few people who actually liked 2 (though I do think 1 and 3 are better still). But seriously, why would you have a completely different art style for the cast when everyone loved them after one game? why? The combat mechanics were far too time consuming too. I mean the game basically makes you spend several turns for even the most meaningless of enemy encounters, just wait wait wait wait wait, NUKEOMGWTF, not to mention that combat system kinda made you use the exact same strategy for every single fight. Nah, people weren't so interested anymore because they did a bad job making 2, and they blamed the consumer base for their mistake and punished them by refusing to release the series like they said they would. UGH.
Note I know that xenogears and xenosaga aren't the same series, but they obviously very intentionally have teasers between the two with zohars, abel, the name, etc.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 19:36:01 GMT -6
Yeah that's easy to say but I know a lot of people who can't afford to keep both consoles. some people need to sell their old one to get the new one... but bottom line I just don't like how sony is just flipping off the people who have asked for this feature since they first launched. if you are not one of those people than it's no big deal. Actually, I can't afford a ps4 whether I keep my ps3 or not...well I suppose I could if I sold things I like but no. I'll just wait a few years, the price will go down and I'll be able to have both (as well as my ps2 and ps1). Like I said though, if they had included backwards compatibility, hardware and production costs on the ps4 would be higher, and likely the sales price of the console would also probably be a good 100 bucks more or so, so would you really even save money in the end? Somehow I doubt a ps3 sells for significantly more than the added price of the ps4 would if it had those features. Also, that's just my own reason why I think demanding backwards compatibility is silly, that's completely dismissing the fact the ps3 IS a horribly complicated machine that very likely would be incredibly difficult to stuff in a ps4 without practically having a full ps3 inside the ps4. As far as I know, sony has never been proven to lie in these kinds of matters like microsoft did about the kinect being needed, so why doubt their word?
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 17:58:07 GMT -6
I said it before and I'll say it again, if shenmue gets more I'll be downright offended. Someone showed me a video in an effort to help me understand why it should possibly get more support. But what I saw had no gameplay at all, just cutscene... I suspect they expected me to be impressed that the cutscenes were using in-game models and animations rather than some FMV or something, which is in fact unique for its time but...uhh...Those kinds of features are the kinds of features AAA developers who care more about credit and less than actual gameplay try to convince is important than the actual game... As for gameplay, I know nothing other than it inveted QTE events, which many gamers swear is a PLAUGE on gaming? How would that impress me? I'm sorry, but after seeing that video, I'm only MORE convinced this is a game that is gambling on its own hype and media attention alone rather than actual merit... I'm not accusing it to be bad, maybe I'd love the game if I tried it, but objectively I don't see why anyone who isn't wearing pink nostalgia fanboy glasses would EVER consider this over a faithful revival of metroidvania based on the advertisment, hype, and possibly previous experience alone...previous experience is in fact a GOOD reason to prefer it, but like I said, if I didn't know the game, I can't imagine how more people than castlevania could do so, seriously... that's like expecting suikoden, as good a game it is, to have a bigger fanbase than super effing mario. edit: not that I'm saying more support wont happen, I'm worried it WILL happen, I'll just be upset that it will, and I don't mean offense by that, like I said, it may very well be an amazing game, I really don't know. I just think that if it somehow gets more support than BS, it wont be from merit alone. In other words, you think your favorite genre of games is better than other people's favorite genre of games. Fair enough, but I find your stance to be the sort of "people can't like things I don't like" rhetoric that I find absolutely hilarious. You'll be offended? Really? Because other people like a thing and want to see it succeed? You do realize that there are people out there saying the exact same thing about Bloodstained, right? That it only got so much support because of nostalgia? I don't mean to re-quote myself but I'm having a hard time deleting it without deleting yours too, sorry... Anyway, your 'other words' aren't even remotely close to what I was saying or conveying, in other words. it's a strawman.. please re-read this blurb that you quoted: "I'm not accusing it to be bad, maybe I'd love the game if I tried it" I meant that, nowhere did I say my taste was better, and I in fact said that I might even like it myself if I tried it. However I don't know enough about the game to judge, but when inquiring about it, all I was exposed to was something with absolutely no gameplay at all, it makes me wonder how much of the love for this game is actually due to it being a good GAME. I even compared it to suikoden in a comparison with super mario, I say this as someone who actually isn't that interested in super mario, and who likes suikoden. I wasn't insulting the game or its userbase in the slightest.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 17:46:27 GMT -6
Kinda curious, what does everyone think about the Lords of Shadow games? I enjoyed the first one but havent gotten through Mirror (wasent overly impressed at what little I did play) or played 2 at all yet. I know alot of others hate on LoS, but I enjoyed it, It never claimed to be a traditional Castlevania or Igavania game so it dosent bother me how different it was, it was beautiful and fun and overtaking The Forgotten One was a infuriating task, perfect no... but less then perfect don't mean anything. Oh god lords of shadow. That game forever made me more cynical and jaded =P. I was really looking forward to lords of shadow over a year in advance. I pre-ordered the special edition, I was stoked. I realized they said they were going to reboot the game, but back then they kinda gave the impression they meant the whole storyline, I was expecting that. I was not expecting them to completely change the entire feeling of the game altogether, like honestly it shouldn't have even been called castlevania at all. The ONLY thing castlevania about it was you played as a dude named belmont cracking a whip. There was no castlevania music, I'm not even talking about reusing old tracks, I mean the music style is completely different.Why the crap would they decide to axe a game that could very well have the most legendary pegedree of music in all of gaming second only to Touhou. Then there was the fact that the game had absolutely no gothic/victorian/decorative castle atmosphere... 1/3 of it is some mayan jungle, 1/3 is desert..and the castle parts don't even count cuz they are pretty much empty, not lit, and delapitated, not furnished, no ornate design...The only good looking castle part I really can think of is that mission where you have to climb up a tower to kill some giant crow or something (I forget the type of bird, been awhile). I didn't even mind the fact the game would be 3d. Curse of darkness and lament of innocence are 2 of my fave castlevania games! I was actually looking forward to a promising 3d game because there were more than enough 2d options on handhelds, I like having both, and 3d was needed more IMO. But the combat mechanics were a step backwards from either curse of darkness OR lament of innocence IMO. Not to mention the fact that bosses were too often riddled with QTE events than actual gameplay. It's kind of a shame that the settings were so uninteresting to me , because the visual quality of the game is remarkable, like if you told me it was a ps4 game and I didn't know better I'd believe it.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 17:33:08 GMT -6
Honestly I don't get the whole outrage over backwards compatibility. People complaining they have to pay to play games they own? Don't throw away your old console then. I still have all of my old consoles (including 2 original gameboy bricks... 2 cuz one doesn't work and I don't have the heart to toss it). Aside from the original NES (and even then I hear they are stable outside of NA, that only NA has the crappy versions)).
The thing about new consoles is that they are kinda expensive to many people. Being able to retail at a lower price is very compelling, and they just can't magically make something backwards compatible without more production and material cost. People IMO act like backwards compatibility is just something they'd have to think about and it will somehow get done without affecting the price of the console.
Frankly, I'd rather have a not backwards compatible console for 400 bucks than one that is backwards compatible for 500 bucks...Not to mention all that extra needed hardware will make it heavier, and probably larger and hotter (and less durable). If you already own the older games, you should own the older console too, and I don't see why you would want to pay extra for the new console just so it can run things that you should be able to run anyway using the old hardware you should have since you apparently own games for it.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 17:13:33 GMT -6
Sigh.... Ok There was no selection to choose from, there was final fantasy and dragon warrior and that's pretty much it...until phantasy star. Point is selection was REALLY low, nowdays, there are probably 10X more JRPG games released each year than there were before, and JRPG isn't the only genre with such a huge variety to select from. No selection??? Where were you when games like Ultima and Hylide came out? If Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior are the only ones you remember then either you weren't paying attention or your standards are WAY to high. Heck in the SNES era there were MASSIVE numbers of RPGs to pick from, Secret of Mana, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, Lagoon, Earthbound, Terranigma, Brain Lord, Illusion of Gaia, etc. and those were JUST ON NINTENDO! That doesn't even begin to cover Sega, Neo Geo, TurboGrafx 16, and all the other systems out back then. Now I admit that there were plenty of games that were released in Japan that got "over looked" by the "US market" but that was back before the days of the internet when such news could easily be wide spread. I meant no selection relative to nowdays... There are far far more games being made now than before, for virtually every genre, RPG included. This is due to the fact that people don't need to be wealthy studios to make a game for a console, many game engines are free to use, etc. I'm not sure if you missed that point or wish to argue it, I'll just assume you missed it. Granted, many games nowdays are bad, but many are good too, and I frankly don't think it's that hard to tell which to get. Yes, it is relative, which is the point. I'm saying that there is a larger selection of games any potential player wont like, but also, there are plenty of ones they would like as well. But I find many people all too often view the entire gaming industry in a negative light simply because they made a few bad purchases (bad for them). It's a weak character that only enjoys what they have an easy time with IMO. I stand by what I said, given I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, I disagree that it was rude or shallow. I would also like to point out that I never said there was anything wrong with enjoying easy things. I said I think it's weak to ONLY enjoy easy things. I even gave an example that made it clear I wasn't even talking about video games! (incidentally, I don't even mean limited to the realm of games and videogames... other things count as well. Such as cooking or music or something) I really have no opinion on people who like easy games. As a matter of fact I regularly find myself arguing against elitist gamers who think they are somehow superior because they like or can play harder games than the person next to them. I'm talking about everything in life, if you don't like a single thing that you don't find easy, I think that is a negative indication of character. Given that I was responding to some guy who seemed to be acting humble about their own difficulties with a game, but was enjoying it anyway, I was simply saying there's no reason to feel ashamed, that it shows strength of character to enjoy something you may have difficulty with. [/quote]
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 2:21:12 GMT -6
I said it before and I'll say it again, if shenmue gets more I'll be downright offended. Someone showed me a video in an effort to help me understand why it should possibly get more support. But what I saw had no gameplay at all, just cutscene... I suspect they expected me to be impressed that the cutscenes were using in-game models and animations rather than some FMV or something, which is in fact unique for its time but...uhh...Those kinds of features are the kinds of features AAA developers who care more about credit and less than actual gameplay try to convince is important than the actual game... As for gameplay, I know nothing other than it inveted QTE events, which many gamers swear is a PLAUGE on gaming? How would that impress me?
I'm sorry, but after seeing that video, I'm only MORE convinced this is a game that is gambling on its own hype and media attention alone rather than actual merit... I'm not accusing it to be bad, maybe I'd love the game if I tried it, but objectively I don't see why anyone who isn't wearing pink nostalgia fanboy glasses would EVER consider this over a faithful revival of metroidvania based on the advertisment, hype, and possibly previous experience alone...previous experience is in fact a GOOD reason to prefer it, but like I said, if I didn't know the game, I can't imagine how more people than castlevania could do so, seriously... that's like expecting suikoden, as good a game it is, to have a bigger fanbase than super effing mario.
edit: not that I'm saying more support wont happen, I'm worried it WILL happen, I'll just be upset that it will, and I don't mean offense by that, like I said, it may very well be an amazing game, I really don't know. I just think that if it somehow gets more support than BS, it wont be from merit alone.
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Post by ghaleon on Jun 18, 2015 2:15:11 GMT -6
I was about to say I don't have either either (why am I the only person who ever seems to have to repeat the same word for two different meanings? One time I've had to repeat it 3 times for 3 different meanings!), if you needed a ps4 you have time... alas, you saved yourself my lecture =P. I love consoles, and I hate pc master race tards..but...I'd get the pc version because physical pc games are kind of a dying breed unlike consoles, despite the pc gaming market itself not dying, a box with a physical copy of one may be special before you realize it.
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