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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 9, 2017 11:37:11 GMT -6
i dunno, ive never cooped a metroidvania and i rarely get to play cvhd, im more of a completionist though, so i do lots of grinding for items and exploration I guess it would be a first for many of us, if we go for that mode. Of course story mode will be the core of the game. The rest is all bonus to me. Grinding. Yes, I'm very familiar with it. As for exploration, the one game I've liked it the most indie-wise is Axiom Verge. You're allowed to exploit different methods to reach the same item/pathway (and there are loads of the former), it is very rewarding albeit tedious, but I digress.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 9, 2017 7:30:20 GMT -6
I wonder if each player get their own loot (on their screen) or if they have to share. Perhaps this could be an option, leaving it up for players. The option could be the difficulty settings, where when you need to share it becomes more difficult. I also wanna see the map just stretch to a limit so you need to stick to each other. If one leaves a room, the next area will teleport that other player. It worked fine in Diablo III, but that was in 3D. I think there will be great limitation in this type of co-op. Think about it, even Double Dragon on Nintendo 8bit had a wider area to play on when teaming up. Do not expect another super zoomed-out giant random castle this time around guys. In the MMO I play, it's set on "random" by default, as in items are distributed in turns, there is an option called "free", so they are attributed to whoever loots them. The party leader can choose between both. Of course that can lead to conflicts and denounciation in world chat. It's also worth noting that when two players are too far from each other, the one grabbing the items keeps all. Teleporting like you said is a bit too much on the easy side... if it has to be enabled, I believe that some cooldown or a limited number of uses would prove smart. if not... it's open to abuse. And yes, I do believe that it's like playing in story mode but with two people at the same time. If there is to be a zoom out, it surely would be one that wouldn't be too big. Oh by the way, I have been also wondering what happens when one player experiences a connection time-out (or both), that would be quite dreadful.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 9, 2017 5:08:55 GMT -6
Different strategy for different scenario. Grinding for item? Spread out Searching for something? Spread out Explore new area? Stick together Fight Boss? Stick together Secure first, treasure-hunt after. I wonder if we will get trapped treasure chests and the like. That would be... inconvenient. But again, it's Bloodstained, not Darkest Dungeon.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 8, 2017 21:02:06 GMT -6
Thank you for the first replies.
Well Enk', of course it's better to enjoy the story mode first, I would do the same as well. I'm a bit like that too, I love to explore nooks and crannies to no end and talk to all NPCs in a MMO, to learn lores, even to see if there are funny lines, especially those that break the fourth wall. That's said, it's because I solo there. ^^
Ah sorry Arsenical, but polls can't be edited. I dreaded pushing that "add options for poll" and I didn't think of all possibilities back then, it seems. Yes, indeed, that is the finest illustration of rushing and efficiency to the max, people go for means but don't wait for/help others. I've witnessed that well enough. The lack of balance between HoD characters only made it worse. It's great to be patient, wait and assist/save others. If only it was more common in gaming communities, that would be great. Sadly many won't bother trying it, partly because they were converted into giving up on these principles.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 8, 2017 15:13:37 GMT -6
Hello all, I've been thinking about the co-op mode while discussing various things in the Bloodstained discord (shameless plug time). Co-op is all about a tandem working together. That said, as for all modes involving team play, there is a minimum of mutual help, right?
...For me it depends. I'm used to be cautious especially when it comes to MMOs, as I don't run with randoms. The worst scenario involves being with rushers that won't bother waiting or acting together. I'm more on the cautious side (grinding if necessary), even if I tend to get a bit more reckless when I know I got solid backup (I know that enemies are defeated without trading damage, that I saved my game prior and that I own a sufficient number of potions and adequate equipment).
I also would make sure I'd be on the same page as the one accompanying me. Daredevil runs can be fun, when they're planned from the start... otherwise I'll consider them either as a failure in communication or plain sabotage (yes, some do that), even if of course mistakes happen. It would be too easy if it wasn't the case, right?
I don't think co-op mode will involve rankings, by the way. Risks of cheating would be too high.
So, what about you, Ladies and Gentlemen, what would be your usual way of tackling a metroidvania/igavania? Do you try to plan all in advance or just adapt to what the game offers you as challenge? What would you see in a perfect co-op mode partner? Would you change your playstyle with different circumstances?
Thank you for replying and participating to the poll! I'll put my vote now.
P.S.: I don't enjoy powerleveling others or being powerleveled (except when totally desperate in a MMO which about... never occurs ^^)
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 8, 2017 14:53:22 GMT -6
Huh? What do you mean, the campaign ended in May and they got well past the magician goal. At the last update, they were only $100 away from the knight character, which has probably been reached now or very soon. Vincent... Knight. Yeah. Why did I think of mage then? And they're 837 bucks away from that stretch goal. It's not super guaranteed to my eyes. Oh and a new update plus demo just arrived.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 8, 2017 5:47:26 GMT -6
I am beginning to seriously doubt that the game will reach its Magician stretch goal in time. So close and yet so far. :/
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 8, 2017 5:42:19 GMT -6
Man I haven't played pinball in a loooong time. There are plenty of ideas given the nature of Bloodstained and Castlevania but as far as spin off pinball games go the Pokemon ones are spin off finest to me. Wonder when they'll do another one. The Kirby Pinball Land game was great too, it made even more sense when you know that Kirby got an ability named ball. I guess that those two worked really nicely, especially on the use of characters. Retro-treasures!
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 8, 2017 5:36:12 GMT -6
So I have a theory about the blue crystallized look. Idk if this has been discussed yet but there's a leveling system depending on how many of a shard you get. What if when you first get these summons they have this (weak form state) and once they advance they learn more and have more visual flair. In sum, they would evolve. Yes, that would be plausible. I will use this opportunity to delve into what we could have gotten familiar evolution-wise (what we will get will probably be idea #1, but #3 would be fair, too): - When it comes to familiars/pets/summons and evolution, there are usually the idea of growing up and getting new forms, like in Pokémon and Digimon (and many TCGs).
- In some games, the familiars don't change at all, they just gain powers when they get stronger. That's a bit lazy to me, but it was quite the norm in old games. Nowadays more data can be stored and the processing abilities have changed, so it's easier to go for different pathways.
- There is also the idea of a familiar becoming more tangible as in they are more used to staying in that form... but normally it's more about creatures that give a time-limited significant boost/cause damage to enemies then disappear. That said, if it's just about appearance and not summoning time, why not.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 15:54:17 GMT -6
Enkeria , what about "familiars will grant passives"? That said, I believe that equipping them beforehand would be a tad annoying. Oh and used more than once... or having two passives, a situational one and one for battle/recovery, but also one active skill/spell (if not more).
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 15:48:01 GMT -6
I wonder what colors Vepar have now since they got in an changed it after the feedback. "tone down" .. or make it dull even? I wouldn't mind a gothic approach, keeping it navy blue and dark green (thinking on the theme of the ocean). As long as there is no stupid censoring, I wouldn't mind... And yes, algae colors wouldn't pose any problem to me. (even neon ones)
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 7:31:38 GMT -6
I'd then just want Miriam to flood the shop with 1G coins. A fitting retribution. (It is not in dollars anymore? ) Coppar CoinsSterlingsilver CoinsGold CoinsWould be most fitting. The money-chest-monster or money-monster, if there ever is one, could have Zink Coins, only good for throwing at enemies or as bait to see if other chests or money-monster would appear I was referring to this... but it seems it's a disproven rumor anyway in the end. www.snopes.com/politics/satire/samsung.asp*dramatic shrug*
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 7:28:24 GMT -6
...You're telling me was completed by a fan? Fair enough.
Yeah, you can't use a big guy like this for the beginning, unless... And yes indeed, it's possible to change designs, this is why they're called concept art pieces.
Oh and kappas are quite malevolent. They're not your friendly reptilian ninja heroes living in Manhattan's sewers.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 7:24:24 GMT -6
Indeed, that's too bad. At least we got a little idea of the fan-favorites of the series.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 4:15:30 GMT -6
Why Kappa in Bloodstained?During the kickstarter campaign, IGA drew a monster on the whiteboard (later becoming an updated design here: - with a kappa as a tail. They joked about how the Kappa could not be in that monster due to restrictions, but it seems like the Kappa was a favorite somehow anyways. It is possible that Kappa, and/or this giant beast are in Bloodstained - Ritual of the Night? I for one would love to slay some nasty Kappa monsters close to the waters. I didn't know that his design was finalized, colors and all. Wow. That said, that gatling gun arm seems... overkill. Heh heh. ...And that kappa tail, it reminds me of the scorpion's tail of the manticore. It won't seem to be practical though, since kappas become weak when they lose their head water.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 7, 2017 4:11:51 GMT -6
lol that's beautiful. I was just thinking about changing my #12 answer: I'd like references to things that happened on the forums, during the Kickstarter/streams, moments from shows they've done, etc. For example: Bismark Kappa III, wall mac (or a different manifestation of IGA's mac experience), takeover, a reference to Mana herself, some kind of "train" which we could refer to as the "hype train!", Astaroth's idea above (item that costs the amount the KS raised), donuts!!!!! This idea, especially! Dominique (or Anna, hilariously): "That'll be exactly 5,545,991G." Miriam: "Why does that specific number sound so familiar?" (*The shop-owners just shrug) I'd then just want Miriam to flood the shop with 1G coins. A fitting retribution. (It is not in dollars anymore? )
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 6, 2017 1:43:38 GMT -6
...The question that was asked a few times was: What is the fork for? One brilliant mind then said "wall mac, of course!" I'll never forget that day.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 6, 2017 1:35:06 GMT -6
Greetings Angel-Corlux ... your name comes across like a beauty soap that the Goddess Aphrodite would use. Surely you mean this:
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 4, 2017 13:04:52 GMT -6
Fangamer Steve would know for sure, but I'm thinking these are separate. Fangamer makes their own pins. lol I put my order in for these so fast last night, I misspelled my name. They're being sent to "Brnet". Bloodstained pins from Fangamer? Wow. I need to see them.
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Post by Lestaroth on Aug 4, 2017 12:57:36 GMT -6
Well done for a track, thanks for sharing! (Do we have that picture in the image gallery?)
By the way, a big thank you to you and Mig and everyone that helped make Lecarde Chronicles 2! Great tough game! I have yet to tackle the final boss again.
Take care!
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