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Post by crazyec24 on Jun 1, 2019 20:14:55 GMT -6
I'm not even interested in buying the steelcase myself if it was made for the non backers. I'm just gonna be satisfied with my regular ps4 copy.
For the other playable characters is there a storyline just for those characters or do they follow the same storyline as Miriam? Since if there is no specific storyline for the other 2 characters I'll stick to using Miriam.
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 1, 2019 20:17:42 GMT -6
I'm definitely hoping there will be separate storylines.
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Post by simon on Jun 1, 2019 22:54:32 GMT -6
Also I'm actually quite surprised you still even want the game, Simon, given I remember your previous posts. You'd previously reported everything about it was horrible. If the strategy here is "I'll buy the retail one and sell the more valuable one for profit later" then that's fine I guess, but it more or less tells you think the backer version is more valuable, and not to mention you actually don't abhor everything about the game as I'd been led to believe. The whip being too slow rendered it completely unplayable. Everything I previously stated is still true. Since you brought up old news I’ll address it once again. I do not like this game because I wanted: 1. 2D graphic style with modern technology....not that NES/SNES era crap and definitely not 2.5D like. 2. The whip sucks and I will not be using it. If my feedback was implemented then I’ll give it a second chance. 3. Very precise and rapid controls. Not these floaty/wonky/slow as molasses controls. 4. Valued as a backer and not screwed over in comparison to what retail customers are getting (I gave an exhaustive detailed break down countless times on the Kickstarter comments I’m not beating the dead horse again by explaining it here also). Obviously, I would get a refund right now if I could, but common sense dictates that this is not an option. So I’m doing the next best thing by implementing my solution due to my tier being devalued compared to retail (IN MY OPINION) by selling my backer copy for $40 (notice the price, YOU think it is more valuable, not me). The new $40 retail version (with the free steel case) is much more valuable TO ME. I’m not selling the steel case.....I’m keeping it. Unless, once I playing the game, if it plays anything like the most recent demo did, then I will immediately sell it used (with the steel case) on Ebay to minimize my losses from this Kickstarter campaign.
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Post by simon on Jun 1, 2019 23:22:22 GMT -6
Everything I previously stated is still true.
Duh.....statement above is my opinion because I typed it. I never said the word fact. You said it was a fact not me......nice try. Good job getting off topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 23:27:38 GMT -6
Ok, is there a way for me to "unwatch" this topic, for lack of a better term? Can't handle all this negative back and forth anymore.
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Post by allooutrick on Jun 1, 2019 23:30:50 GMT -6
Ok, is there a way for me to "unwatch" this topic, for lack of a better term? Can't handle all this negative back and forth anymore. I'm just going to completely avoid this site until at least a week after I beat the game. Hopefully by then we're only talking about content I've seen and gushing or theorizing as friends and fans.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 1, 2019 23:37:46 GMT -6
I just want to make sure you didn't miss the second part of my post, about how it's likely the steelcases will be sold in higher number to the public/any backer that missed it later. It would be smart business-wise given the response, but decrease the (I'd say) over-estimated value of the case. If we're making a fuss like this over a little case, can't wait to see stuff like figures.
Hey @bloodymiri I don't believe you receive notifications for posts in a thread by default unless someone tags you specifically (which I just did, sorry about adding one). You can however disable them in general by going to "Profile" at the top just under our logo, "Edit Profile" near the top right of the next screen > the "Notifications" tab of the next screen and unchecking anything you don't want.
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Post by kamuiarikado on Jun 1, 2019 23:49:08 GMT -6
Everything I previously stated is still true. Duh.....statement above is my opinion because I typed it. I never said the word fact. You said it was a fact not me......nice try. Good job getting off topic. I deleted my previous message because it doesn't provide a meaningful or interesting statement or opinion, sorry for the confusion, I wasn't intended to be rude, or trying to change your mind. Yeah, you don't said the word fact, or that your opinion is a fact, sorry for the off-topic. Also, it's fine to disagree or even hate the game, because, well, it's your opinion and your personal tastes, not everything is for everyone, and so on.
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Post by Yän on Jun 2, 2019 7:16:20 GMT -6
I'm more and more convinced that the whole steel case thing was some sort of social experiment to see how much you can make people lose their minds over some mass produced metal canisters.
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 2, 2019 8:02:07 GMT -6
I'm more and more convinced that the whole steel case thing was some sort of social experiment to see how much you can make people lose their minds over some mass produced metal canisters. I wonder what Gollum would have to say about this?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 10:22:21 GMT -6
Talos above me. I just went to the comments section of the kickstarters latest update, and I just don't even know what to say about all the hate there.
I mean, contructive feedback/complaints is fine, but what I am seeing posted by one user in particular whose name starts with the letter C, is vile and completely unhinged in the extreme.
The kind of things he is repeatedly posting about Iga is obcene enough that I would prob be banned for copying them here. Holy $^*2, that dude needs help.
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Post by Yän on Jun 2, 2019 10:31:59 GMT -6
@bloodymiri NOOO DON'T LOOK AT IT, YOU'LL HURT YOURSELF D:
But yeah, seriously if this forum thread was bad (which it kinda was sometimes), the kickstarter comments are like a Bosch hell painting turned real. I immediately noticed that after seeing the update and reading through some of the first comments. I then vowed never to return to that place again .__.
Oh and by all means, whatever you do, don't go to the steamcommunity forums if you want to keep your day nice.
It's a shame, the community surrounding this game has been super nice and constructive for the longest time and that seems to change a bit at the moment, mostly due to a few extremely loud and unreasonable individuals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 10:40:26 GMT -6
It would almost be funny, if it were not so tragic.
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 2, 2019 12:02:03 GMT -6
I've been one of the "unnice" ones in the past and I'm sure I'll continue to be one in the future occasionally. (Though I hope not THAT bad) I legit have no trouble accepting that people are miffed and unhappy with the decision and happy to work to a compromise even if I don't think there needs to be one, (as far as the exclusive content situation goes I don't feel there needs to be one nor could there be an acceptable one found) but when it gets to the point that your just blasting the same argument that has been disproven or that you yourself cannot prove and are being vitriolic (my word for the day) for the sake of being an asshole I lose any sympathy or respect for that side of the argument.
Am happy that 505 and Sony were nice enough to give me the theme and I'll try for the steelbook for my collection, am excited about playing as Zangetsu in the game I've always been curious about him as you can see from my newish avatar and love David Hayter's voice work, am hoping they keep the 3rd character secret, I wanna uncover some things for myself when I get the game. I'm curious how the retro levels and classic levels are gonna be implemented, will they make some sort of notice that one of the bosses will be the "extra" boss (not that it really matters they could literally pick any boss besides the IGA boss) and who will be the boss/bosses for Boss Revenge and will there be any future expansions on the game and how will they be implemented. I'm really hoping that the IGA superboss and whipsword are not a disconnected part of the game and castle, like maybe if you don't have the DLC there is a barrier preventing you from going past it and not just a completely separate thing from game and plot as I'd love to see IGA become a recurring superboss in the series.
Mostly I just wanna hurry up and play the game.
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 2, 2019 12:44:00 GMT -6
Alot of people are/have been expecting there to be a kickstarter for Bloodstained 2...
Only if they haven't been paying attention. It's been said by those in charge that the hope is the game does well enough that it's not necessary for a sequel to be Kickstarted. Frankly, given the amount of passionate response, positive and negative both, I don't expect it'll be necessary either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 13:32:40 GMT -6
I'd definitely like to see the series (and yes, it shall be a series) no longer need Kickstarting in the future. The campaign was an incredible thing when it launched. It was a new experience, and it was truly amazing to watch all these goals met so quickly. It was awesome to see the videos of IGA answering questions. Those early days were the greatest. I doubt that we can duplicate that enthusiasm and experience with a future Kickstarter. I do want IGA to have the freedom that he deserves, so that he may continue sharing his great games with us. I don't think that he needs thousands of inexperienced opinions telling him how to do that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 13:39:27 GMT -6
Seriously. I still go back to that first video Iga did where he promises to prove everyone wrong, it was a fun little video to watch.
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Post by RichterB on Jun 2, 2019 14:01:01 GMT -6
*I'm with crazyec24 in not being interested in the steelbook case. Those things are usually too clunky for my tastes, and we're talking about a case to hold a physical game that doesn't even have all the content loaded on it. I can see why people who payed $100+ might want the bonus of it, but otherwise, I think it's better off enticing people/getting attention at retail, because this game still has some work to do with those of us who didn't back it. *I think the reason things have gone so contentious is just a misunderstanding about Kickstarters, combined with the length of development time. I mean, when this started, there was a brief statement of how IGA had some other sources of funding and such, but needed to prove interest. Well, he proved the interest, and eventually that led to 505 Games (after, I believe, a brief time with Deep Silver?).
Regardless, the confusion came because of the whole idea that it was "us" the "backers" against "them" the "retail/corporate world that did not want Castlevania/IGAvania to continue," and this was even kind of flamed up with the whole "Army of the Night" moniker, much in the way that Mighty No. 9 had its "Beckers." The truth of the matter, though, was this wasn't some indie Kickstarted game by a couple of guys/gals in a apartment; this was a game that was intended to go full bore to retail and be a massive franchise starter, and it basically had corporate supporters waiting in the wings to help make that happen. So when those higher powers, versus the backers, are calling out that this reward will be delayed, or that reward will be available to the general public, or we want to promo the game with something exclusive to retail outside of Kickstarter, this cultivated "Army of the Night," who feels it's been so involved in the feedback and funding, and has been on a rocky road with previous delays or platform cancellations, is having a harder time understanding the reality of the project. They feel like majority stakeholders, and whatever the breakdown of money is, at the end of the day, this is a retail product, not a prize, and so they are more like minority stakeholders at this point.
So long as the game (and the eventual Classic Mode) deliver, I've got minimal issues with all this. The game has to sell at retail at the end of the day to be a success. 505 Games and IGA have been very generous and accommodating, all things considered. I'm thankful they took the feedback they did, and that they are offering some avenues for everyone to experience the game and some of its bonuses. I made my investment, got to participate, and I'm not going to be clamoring for more extras. The game is the main point, and all the knickknacks in the world won't change that. There are things that could have been handled differently before this point, and there is feedback that possibly could have been taken if time was immaterial, but I want to believe its reached a happy medium on this release date, and time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:07:11 GMT -6
^Buddy, I am sure you are a cool dude, but please space those sentences out better next time, ok? Wall of text....
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Post by gunlord500 on Jun 2, 2019 14:16:59 GMT -6
Talos above me. I just went to the comments section of the kickstarters latest update, and I just don't even know what to say about all the hate there. I mean, contructive feedback/complaints is fine, but what I am seeing posted by one user in particular whose name starts with the letter C, is vile and completely unhinged in the extreme. The kind of things he is repeatedly posting about Iga is obcene enough that I would prob be banned for copying them here. Holy $^*2, that dude needs help. Yeah, that one guy is...well known to us mods. It'd be impolitic to say any more, but suffice it to say we've gotten used to and expecting of his...less measured outbursts on the KS comments.
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