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Post by Angel-Corlux on Jan 31, 2018 15:02:29 GMT -6
A new Kickstarter Update is live with the arrival of the super blue blood moon! This month we're revealing crafting and giving a taste of how it works. Be sure to check out the whole update here:
New Kickstarter Update
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Post by CastleDan on Jan 31, 2018 15:18:12 GMT -6
Update is good, Angel.
Enemy design is fantastic. Reminds me of goofball, a cool design. Crafting looks great too.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jan 31, 2018 15:21:05 GMT -6
Anyone else quick catch something interesting in the video? Check out the Discord for a little screen shot ;p
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Post by crocodile on Jan 31, 2018 15:25:55 GMT -6
Posting Youtube video with a brief look at crafting in case people can't or don't want to head over to Kickstarter: I guess crafting only works if you go to see Johannes in the castle rather than being an option from the menu in the field. Good to know. Speaking of Johannes, here's his silly mug that we only see for an instant in the video: Also, when you make an item, why does it say "Craft Thorn Whip 1" or "Thorn Whip crafted 1" instead of "Craft 1 Thorn Whip 1" or "1 Thorn Whip crafted". The former are just straight up bad English! Angel-Corlux you may want to poke the dev team and make sure they are on point with their English!
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Post by BloodyTears92 on Jan 31, 2018 15:28:18 GMT -6
The mechanics of the crafting system are exactly what I thought they'd be: very similar to the forging from Curse of Darkness. And I loved the forging in CoD, so I'm very pleased with the crafting system. Also Im betting the Shard forging will work like the Soul Merging from Dawn of Sorrow, which I'm also cool with.
Cooking is the surprise, but a pleasant one...though I do wonder if certain food will give buffs or just be alternate potions. All the cool food items in past games were fun, especially the comic ones or sometimes interesting lore-related items (such as the fact the Wine in CoD had a note about it being brewed in 1476 to commemorate Dracula's defeat).
But I never used them because there was usually only 1 of them in the game and restoring health and mana are what the always-purchasable potions and ethers were for. So I always just hung on to that hot fudge sundae because it was the only one in the game XD
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jan 31, 2018 15:43:51 GMT -6
Haha here's my shot of the menu, where you can see the options (which include what must be cooking):
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Post by JeffCross on Jan 31, 2018 15:44:53 GMT -6
I wish you could do more experimental forging but oh well... as I said way back when, I would be fine with whatever they come up with. I just wanted to discover some hidden weapon or something... through forging. Edit: purifyweirdshard how did you get that shot? it moved by so freaking fast lol
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jan 31, 2018 15:58:59 GMT -6
Stopping and starting the video around that spot over and over lol
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Post by Elfina Ashfield on Jan 31, 2018 16:02:40 GMT -6
Miriam: "Home cooking~ Home cooking~ Home cooking~ sure sounds good, to a country girl like me~" lel
Oh okay The Band is a little bit too old for me...
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Jokes aside, I really love the the new music they're revealing, that classic vibe. Ahhh.
Crafting system do reminds me of Odinsphere tho!
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Post by chronogeran on Jan 31, 2018 16:06:27 GMT -6
JeffCross purifyweirdshard I was able to get that shot by doing frame-by-frame on the video. Just pause and hit , and . to go back/forward one frame at a time.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jan 31, 2018 16:40:23 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard For some reason I thought you Mods had an "insider scoop" on the game regarding what features would be included (don't ask me why I thought this since if I'm not mistaken you're not employees of ArtPlay or 505 games, correct?. As for the crafting system: I really like what I see so far. It makes perfect sense to have Johannes help you craft items and I think this role is an ideal fit for his character.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jan 31, 2018 16:47:36 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard For some reason I thought you Mods had an "insider scoop" on the game regarding what features would be included (don't ask me why I thought this since if I'm not mistaken you're not employees of ArtPlay or 505 games, correct?. Nah, we don't know any more of what's in the game than you guys do. And correct, we are not employees of ArtPlay or 505 - just Mana and Angel respectively are.
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Post by gunlord500 on Jan 31, 2018 16:49:33 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard For some reason I thought you Mods had an "insider scoop" on the game regarding what features would be included (don't ask me why I thought this since if I'm not mistaken you're not employees of ArtPlay or 505 games, correct?. As for the crafting system: I really like what I see so far. It makes perfect sense to have Johannes help you craft items and I think this role is an ideal fit for his character. We really don't. I can honestly say without the slightest bit of reservation that at least us mods (me, Purify, cecil, etc.) don't know much more about the features of the game than you guys. Mana and Angel would, but they're official staff involved with the game itself (Mana with art, Angel with the publisher) Us mods often discuss how the updates are going because it's our responsibility to ensure folks on the forum are happy, pleased, and enthusiastic, but that means Angel-Corlux tells us how substantial an update will be or if there are any big announcements we should keep an eye out for. The actual content of the updates is as much a surprise to us as it is to you XD
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Post by Pure Miriam on Jan 31, 2018 16:52:26 GMT -6
Great update! I said it before that it would be either the reveal of what the Effective Shard does, or crafting. i was right. So, let's get down to analysis: THE BASICS OF CRAFTING
Crafting is basically adding stuff to create stuff Crafting is basically adding up to four different itens to get a expected result from a predetermined list. It's basic, simple and efficient. I can guess that list gets bigger as you find recipes, or as you progress in the game and / or by leveling Miriam up. Either way, i didn't expected anything more complex than this, since the game already has a ton of stuff to do, so, the crafting is what i wanted it to be (the only downsize is the "recipe" style, where you already have what you wanna do. It kinda kills a bit of the surprise, but nothing really bad about it). CRAFTING ITENS
Everything looks so beautiful, even the little details like this crafting circle We have quite the variety of stuff there to be used for crafting. Just for a check: High Potion: Potion, Melted Skull, Tail, Giant Frong Eye. HigH Ether: Ether, Melted Skull, Bat Fangs, Egg. Lohengrin: Gram, Fire Stone, Steel. Schedar: Gram, Vepar Fangs, Steel. Lightning Bolt: Gram, Amethyst Fragment, Steel. Partisan: Spear, Amethyst Fragment, Steel. Thorn Whip: Whip, Moco Plant Leaf, bat Fangs. Armor Piercing: (?) Brigandine: (?) Some interesting stuff about all of this, is that some weapons require other weapons to be crafted. Schedar Sword requires Vepar Fangs (Vepar drops that at 100% rate? There are more equipment that requires this? We can fight Vepar again?), among other things. EQUIPPING FORGED STUFF
Moco PLant Leaf and Fangs to give spikes to a whip...it kinda makes sense. I know that this wouldn't require a screenshot just to talk about it, but i like that you can craft and equip something at the same time. A cool shortcut. Also, the icons on Miriam's menu and the MP bar changed colors and styles.
CRAFTING OPTIONS
Shards? That will be interesting... In a absurdly quickly way, we can barely see the crafting options here. The first one (top to bottom) looks like what the video shows. Crafting weapons, potions and armor. The second options is basically cooking, something i really didn't expected the game would have, but, it's kinda fun that will have (i admit i disliked the idea before, but i'm liking now). The third one is obviously Shard, so, that means we can CRAFT Shards? Maybe just enpower them with more shards of the same type or we can actually create new powers by combining shards? that would be wicked! The last potion is probably dismantle, to break down stuff to create new materials. Also, Johannes is the one handling crafting, also what we expected.
CRAFTING ROOM
The stronghold The crafting room looks like a scenario with portraits that was shown before. It is probably at the village, so, the village may be the heroe's stronghold against the forces of Gebel. That's a nice touch. Also, that blue candle alchemy circle has any meaning? NEW ENEMY
New Bat-enemy A bat to annoy us as all Igavania games must have. And a quite ugly-wicked at that. Loved it. By the way, this bat-enemy has no name? I really liked this update. Lots of things to discuss. Great one! That's all folks!
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Post by Arsenical on Jan 31, 2018 16:55:39 GMT -6
YESSSS! finally crafting and it looks pretty good! its basic, simple and easy to understand . my hype has been fully restored. also... IS THAT COOKING OVER THERE?? I WAS RIGHT!! I KNEW IT!! I WANT MY 5000G BAG NOW! So excited to spend hours grinding for random stuff, ugh waiting just keeps on getting harder. ok so for feedback. Can we get a better look at Johannes? we only get to see him for half a second and maybe because he is still WIP but he looks like a souless dude staring into infinity. i cannot feel his personality or that me (the player) is interacting with him in any way... he is just there probably thinking about weird chemicals while Miriam plays around with severed demon parts and bottles.
the crafting interface looks a bit boring (NOT COMPLAINING, this is more a personal opinion) we are talking about chemistry and magic maybe it could use a few more colors or just something that makes it look more appealing. im very satisfied with this update, personally i considered this to be the most important update and since its finally here i can finally sleep in peace. i still miss the light blue mana bar and light blue ether, not a fan of this new purpleish and deep blue colors but oh well~ by the way its a bit sad to see the amount of people coplaining for the most absurd things ever... seriously whats wrong with the gaming community these days? always looking for a reason to complain.
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Post by Pure Miriam on Jan 31, 2018 16:57:15 GMT -6
THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE I FORGOT TO SAY. They said they are working with PORTING the game now. That MOST PROBABLY means the game is complete.I think you only do porting after the game is done. But i may be wrong.
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Post by gunlord500 on Jan 31, 2018 17:08:15 GMT -6
THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE I FORGOT TO SAY. They said they are working with PORTING the game now. That MOST PROBABLY means the game is complete.I think you only do porting after the game is done. But i may be wrong. The game should be close to complete, but I really hope they continue to fiddle with the lighting and stuff. I know they've changed the lighting for the previous stages...I distinctly recall recent screenshots of the Galleon Minerva looking even better than it did in the demo.
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Post by JeffCross on Jan 31, 2018 17:13:54 GMT -6
JeffCross purifyweirdshard I was able to get that shot by doing frame-by-frame on the video. Just pause and hit , and . to go back/forward one frame at a time. I know that is how you got it done but it was just so quick lol it is less then a split second... I am just giving kudos to whoever got the screenshot.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jan 31, 2018 17:15:10 GMT -6
THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE I FORGOT TO SAY. They said they are working with PORTING the game now. That MOST PROBABLY means the game is complete.I think you only do porting after the game is done. But i may be wrong. I was thinking the exact same thing; porting is usually the last step in the process so the core game must be complete which is fantastic news even if it's not officially confirmed. Also Pure Miriam that was a great analysis and you caught many things I missed initially.
It's funny - I didn't think about Bloodstained too much since backing it in 2015 but the last few months have positively crawled and I eagerly anticipate each update. I cannot remember being this excited about a release in years.
purifyweirdshard and gunlord500
Thank you for clarifying your roles. I think I would be even more anxious for news if I was in your position.
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Post by Yän on Jan 31, 2018 17:22:44 GMT -6
Great update! Johannes-Model (as well as every major character's model) needs a higher-res version for cutscenes and mugshots like that though. Textures look especially blurry. I mean, it's completely fine outside of such scenes, with how small these characters appear. I guess that this is work in progress since Johannes was only there for a couple of frames and wasn't the update's focus. I like the fact that we're getting some crafting again. Enjoyed that in Curse of Darkness! That rabbit hole went really deep in that game with some of the items requiring crazy long crafting chains and complex combinations. Gram can be turned into Fire, Ice or Thunder! That's going to be badass!
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