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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 12, 2015 11:36:26 GMT -6
Not all of the things in Castlevania were related. Since the beginning it had a huge mashup of monsters, and later became a mashup of different mythologies, but with Dracula still being the ruler of the castle. Things like Galamoth and Balore don't really have any connections to vampirism or the gothic theme. ROTN is still a gothic game, so vampires and the like can still make an appearance. There was a new thread opened up about whether the classic enemies should appear or not, check it out if you want! It does seem unlikely that a vamp will be a 3rd character, but I think the point has gotten across already. We're just sharing ideas at this point As far as story goes it was consistent, though. This is my point, there needs to be a better story-related reason if they are going to be playable. I agree that vampires could appear as enemies, they are much looser about populating the castle. Yesterday I started thinking about paralels between the games. The reason I feel so strongly about it is because it seems to me the crystal cursed are our vampires. Think about it, Gebel is the powerful and dangerous owner of the castle, he takes the place of Dracula, though he might be a more well-meaning one. Miriam is touched by the same curse, but she isn't as far gone as Gebel, she is our Alucard, or Soma. Though there is no blood drinking, they were made into what they are through an evil sacrificial ritual, just like how Dracula is summoned. But that led me to think what else we are missing. It's possible that there will be some demon linked to the crystals that either serves or tries to control Gebel, which would take loosely the place of Death. As far as playable characters go, we don't have an equivalent to the Belmonts. Johannes may inherit the whip, but he is in the quest for personal reasons, and being an alchemist makes him more of a mystic than a warrior. We don't have a demon hunter.
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 11, 2015 23:33:29 GMT -6
Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope. This is not Castlevania people, this is an entire new setting. We don't have Dracula, and we have the demon crystal cursed instead of vampires. Putting a vampire in is just going to derail from the new setting IGA is making. How do you even explain vampires here without taking the spotlight away from Miriam and Gebel? I'd rather have no vampire playable characters, IGA is making something new and I think it's much better if they focus on that. Maybe we might have some vampire enemies, since the castle is summoning all kinds of demons, but a playable vampire doesn't fit. A small girl might be okay, but I don't think they can explain her being immortal in this setting. Alchemists are all dead but Johannes, scientists are too new and I don't think they can do that, and the crystal curse ritual only happened a few years ago, What new setting? It still takes place in relatively the same timeframe as SOTN, which is around the 1700s. Yes, there won't be Dracula, but that doesn't exclude vampires from the mix. The same timeframe doesn't mean the same fantasy elements. It is a new setting, regardless of the year. There is nothing about 1700s that requires vampires. Frankenstein also takes place on the 1700s and it doesn't mean any other work has to feature the monster. Of course, it doesn't forbid them either, but still, it would pull the spotlight away from Miriam and Gebel. Why would a vampire exist in this setting, and why would they have anything to do with the alchemists or Gebel? An old powerful vampire playing its own game can make the demon crystals into a tool for their own designs, and hijack its importance to the others and the whole plot. In Castlevania all central elements related. We had Dracula, vampires (Carmilla) and cultists (Shaft) who served him, his son Alucard, and of course the clans of vampire hunters who fought him, the most prevalent of them being the Belmont. Even Maria who was a bit different still related to the Belmont. Soma is Dracula himself. All of them tied to the central element of the great vampire Dracula and his demonic threat to the world. In Bloodstained the central element are the demon crystals. Gebel is the creator of the castle, who built it to have a home for the crystal cursed, he and Miriam. Johannes is the only survivor of Gebel's rampage. Putting a vampire here would require answering, how does the vampire relate to the crystal curse. A pet character would be a creation of the demon crystals. A scientist character would have been the intended victim the evil alchemists wanted to use the demon crystals against. The vampire character can't simply have been there, without linking to the central elements of the setting.
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 11, 2015 16:14:26 GMT -6
We can only hope they are. Pet option is still a good idea for the third character. You make it sound like loli characters are an overused thing in Castlevania when the only one ever used was Maria. You know you want it, a powerful vampire. Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope. This is not Castlevania people, this is an entire new setting. We don't have Dracula, and we have the demon crystal cursed instead of vampires. Putting a vampire in is just going to derail from the new setting IGA is making. How do you even explain vampires here without taking the spotlight away from Miriam and Gebel? I'd rather have no vampire playable characters, IGA is making something new and I think it's much better if they focus on that. Maybe we might have some vampire enemies, since the castle is summoning all kinds of demons, but a playable vampire doesn't fit. A small girl might be okay, but I don't think they can explain her being immortal in this setting. Alchemists are all dead but Johannes, scientists are too new and I don't think they can do that, and the crystal curse ritual only happened a few years ago,
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 10, 2015 21:48:48 GMT -6
Junte-se a nós então, ó bardo errante que apareceste agora! Enfim mais um fã português/brasileiro, bem vindo, eu acho! Olá, sou brasileiro sim. Sou fã de Castlevania desde Symphony of the Night, o que deve ser meio comum aqui.
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 10, 2015 21:26:30 GMT -6
Jewel Knuckles is a monster early-game, you can use that until you get to the catacombs or later. It really helps. I second this. Portrait of Ruin was especially not so good because of repetitive rooms. Hell, there even was two portraits with the same layout. Yup, SOTN worked because the layout of all the backgrounds were unique. It wasn't just square room into hallway into square room type designs. One of the details about the randomly generated castle is that it would be very hard to make it unique enough when compared to a man-made level design
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 10, 2015 21:21:32 GMT -6
Enfim, acho que não existe outros brasileiros que participaram no Kickstarter, então acho que seremos nós dois. Eu apenas criei o tópico para ver se existia ao menos mais um além de mim, então já foi uma "vitória" ter achado mais um, hehe. Eu vou ficar aqui tocando o violino romântico para vocês.
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 10, 2015 21:15:46 GMT -6
I'd talk all day about game design, and one day wouldn't be enough. The man is a master in the craft.
But I don't know japanese.
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 10, 2015 19:47:57 GMT -6
well if there is a unscathed youth and wild youth... vote one of those and for her job put "loli vampire" Well, the one I'm thinking about is a few hundred years old wise loli vampire. So "pure unscathed youth", and "wild youth" don't really fit that. For now, I voted Mature Woman. Uh... I'm not sure that fits either.
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Post by twilightvulpine on Jul 10, 2015 18:06:10 GMT -6
I'm another one hoping for a scientist gadgeteer.
We have Johaness as the last alchemist, Miriam as one of the victims to the demonic crystals, but we don't have anything on the scientists. The whole reason why the ritual was done was to stop the scientists from getting more influential, it would be great to have someone from their perspective, as well as so we know what happened to them afterwards. And a strange castle appearing from nowhere deserves being studied for all the new materials and species that it has.
Gebel sounds like an interesting character but he is the creator of the castle. It doesn't make much sense that he would need to fight anything. His story could be mixed with Miriam and Johannes'.
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