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Post by XombieMike on Jun 4, 2018 7:18:55 GMT -6
The slightest thing could make the difference! Let them know in the speedrunner Discord linked above. If you don't wanna, just leave detailed instructions here and I'll pass it on. Getting your name associated with tech though, it make you part of the history of the game if it's used for an extended period of time.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 23:56:31 GMT -6
My intention is to get the questions answered by email. The email goes Me-Mana-IGA-Mana-IntiCreates-Mana-Me. That's how I hope it goes, but we will see.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 23:48:09 GMT -6
Ok, from the posts above, the messages I've got and my own ideas about how best to get answers to fit our goal these are the questions I think we should ask.
Regarding the status of "codes ready today?" they have answered on Twitter that they don't know when they will be, but as soon as they get them they will hand them off to Fangamer. "Have you found a working solution to the lack of codes for Region 3 PS4 & Vita backers yet?" The email response from Fangamer makes it clear Inti has no intention to release in that region. So I'm approaching that differently. To the many PM's I've got about specific things, I don't think the more questions the better in this case. Like I said, GoG questions are useless. All other stuff I think I've worked in as best as possible.
1. Why is it so hard to communicate with IntiCreates regarding Curse?
2. Why was a release date announced before backer codes were taken care of?
3. What parts of the process of getting backers codes caused the problems, and who is at fault?
4. Asia will not be getting a PS4 or Vita release, but we have backers there. Out of region codes require a separate memory card. ArtPlay should not have to send backers refunds due to IntiCreates not publishing in an entire region. This is unacceptable, how will you fix this?
5. Backers are IGA's biggest fans, and this hurts his reputation. How will you make this up to IGA and the backers?
6. How can you let IGA be the one to pay refunds to backers for a publishing issue?
Due to the time zone issues, and wanting as quick a response as possible, I'm going ahead with the questions as I've written them. Thank you for your input. I hope these questions encompass the base of the frustration with IntiCreates and that getting a response will be, as our friend Ben has said,"better than nothing".
I will send these to Mana now, for IGA's review and to pass to IntiCreates.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 18:24:19 GMT -6
Side note, about 6:30 in or so they address this:
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 18:22:52 GMT -6
Cale By all means, entertain that idea. Anyone else among us who's willing to send this hard-working team more free sweets is an okay person in my book. What do you think of this, XombieMike ? Unfortunately I don't think donuts are going to fix any of this. We need and deserve more transparent communication with IntiCreates. IGA knows he has our support. We just gave him a great 50th birthday gift. With E3 and the demo coming around soon, things could be minimized with the press at large, but a pissed off backer community is going to undercut the potential to put Bloodstained in the main stream. I am tempted, but will refrain for now, on talking with cecil-kain about using the force that is Operation Akumajo to flood IntiCreate's inboxes, Twitter and Facebook with demands for answers to a preset list of questions. However, I don't like the end game in that unless it's the only way. Pushing that message far will let the world and all Bloodstained fans see there is a hole in the armor that is the integrity of the brand. We must keep the brand in mind for IGA's success. IGA is paying for the refunds to Region 3, not IntiCreates. I imagine his attitude is to make things right at an expense now to save the brand overall, especially right now as a lot of marketing beats are coming up. Here is what I propose instead. Unlike with IntiCreates we have an excellent open access to IGA himself through Mana. I say we put together a list of very short and concise questions that will put this all in perspective. We will pass them by IGA and get ArtPlay to push them to Matt Papa at IntiCreates. I want to believe that Matt really wants to do right by the backers even though his communications haven't met our requirements since he came on the podcast so long ago. Now, everyone, please come up with SHORT easy to translate questions that will address the following issues: 1. The code release delays to backers. 2. "Region 3" not being available for PS4 and Vita. What we are NOT going to approach them about is GoG. They have already answered that question. IntiCreates Will require DRM on their games as a means of anti piracy. That's their stance and it's not going anywhere. So, hit me with the questions and I'll update this post with those that fit the mission.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:53:31 GMT -6
This really really sucks. Non of the options provided by Fangamer can be used. You know, I gave them a second chance and still, they failed to deliver. No GOG codes, fine. No PS Vita Asia codes, too?! Seriously, two strikes is all I can take! I don't think you are understanding that ArtPlay, IGA, Fangamer or 505 Games are not the ones creating these issues. It's all IntiCreates.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:52:12 GMT -6
Matt Papa is the PR person for IntiCreates. You can invite him here to address this issue, but I seriously doubt he will show up. I'd have to verify his account.He hasn't responded to any of my emails since he came on the podcast.
I know you're asking as a joke, but for people who don't know, this is the answer.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:09:53 GMT -6
Guys, for the rest of this thread I want you to think of two things before you post. #1 is what I'm saying helpful? #2 Is what I'm saying friendly?
If your post isn't passing those two filters, just don't say anything. I hope that's clear.
Opinions are fine. Diverse opinions are welcome. Opinions on other people's opinions though are getting out of hand in this particular thread. Please refrain. Thanks.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:00:23 GMT -6
We could ask Ben Judd about how this IntiCreates stuff affects his client, but we know what happened last time Ben spoke up regarding Inti and his client...
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 9:07:44 GMT -6
Well, option 2 is money out of IGA's pocket when it should be Inti's pocket.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 9:03:46 GMT -6
cstoe demiurgos Let them know. Piggy back off my tweet and let them know this affects IGA's name and his fans.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -6
ArtPlay isn't the publisher. Once again in the same hour though... another good example of how IntiCreates is dragging IGA's name though the sewer. Come on IntiCreates... "Region 3" players are people too.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 7:48:24 GMT -6
gunlocksp you mispelled IntiCreates as IGA. I totally understand though. It certainly shows the risks of kickstarting a game. This is a stretch goal game out of IGA's hands when it comes to these issues, but it affects his reputation anyway. Maybe Ritual will affect people's opinion.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 2, 2018 22:33:09 GMT -6
Or 505?
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 2, 2018 21:53:17 GMT -6
Well, Angel has been known for saying that nothing in the KS has been removed. However, now that Inti isn't doing the main game, I wouldn't be surprised if her power set has evolved past Gunvolt references. They really need to keep that stuff separate from IGA's vision. There is a certain part of Curse where I think a Gunvolt thing was a bit much.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 2, 2018 10:54:44 GMT -6
Ok, maybe IGA suddenly woke up one morning and decided to reduce the breasts of the Vepar, or that may be because the development team does not want to receive bad reviews by some American sector of people who feel offended by anything with a little of sexual tone. I, personally, believe in the most realistic option. It's clear that this conversation does not lead anywhere. I 've read many anti vs pro censorship discussions and it's always the same. Those who defend it make thousand of excuses to show that there is no censorship and those who hate it feel annoyed because they think they're being deceived. So we agree to disagree. In short, I repeat my request: please add a censorship selector in the game. So everyone will be happy. Hey Taburisu, I appreciate your candor to my responses and your opinions, really do. All I can tell you is what I know to be the truth, being so closely involved with the project. While there were certain people that complained about Vepar's breasts because "omg boobs offensive etc etc." I can personally guarantee you that being offended has absolutely zero weight in any decision we make for the game. (within reason ofc)
Let me point out that Vepar is still bare chested, several leading ladies in the game are extremely attractive and well endowed, and there are several elements in the game that revolve around sexuality or being provocative, whether we're talking about monsters, situations, characters etc. (The vast majority of the game hasn't been revealed so I know that's hard to quantify right now). If we were really making changes to appease any sort of external agenda or people being offended at content that included elements of sexuality, then you'd be seeing much more drastic visible changes to the game than just a slight reduction of Vepar's breasts from super huge to "only" huge. (I think it's technically DD down from F or something IIRC)
Now the changes to Vepar were definitely partly inspired by the feedback gathered from fans, but just like with anything, Iga decides if to take action on feedback, and if so, what the change will be, no one else. And to give you even further insight, when the changes were made there was the discussion internally whether we were crossing a line and people may be offended because the breasts now look more perky and detailed, while still remaining huge, and to that concern I was immediately like "lol no I don't care, if this what you believe / want the most, then you do what you want and I will be the 200 foot tall titanium wall that blocks anyone demanding changes because of external/personal agendas".
I also understand your request for a "censorship toggle" option, and to be totally honest making such an option would be a huge pain and bad use of resources for a LOT of reasons, but above all else it wouldn't make any sense, let me tell you why: Iga says ok and asks me what differences are going to be toggled when selecting this option, so then I include the following:
- Vepar original breasts - ..... - uhm -......
Haha you see what I mean? There would be nothing to put into such an option because there's nothing in the game being censored. Technically the only other thing is how much skin is initially revealed by Bloodless when she's getting out of the tub, but that's only for Chinese versions of the game because China has different standards for certain ratings.
Anyway, hopefully this all makes sense, and you can trust what I'm saying, hopefully you know my mantra by now ("I won't always be able to talk about something, but whatever I do say will be the truth")
And last but not least, I'm going to try and walk the tightrope here (speak personally while remaining professional) and say that as a fan of countless other games, some where sexuality was a prominent pillar of the fandom, I've suffered first hand when games I love get manipulated by external agendas and personal social / political / religious opinions of staff involved with the game/project who feel it's ok to use the project they work on as their own personal megaphone for activism.
Every time I've seen it happen, in the far past and very recently, it made me vow that if I ever was in that position I would never do that, and lo and behold fate has been kind to me and now I have the power to make sure that's the case. Hope that helps clear up some of your concerns, but please always feel free to be honest and bring critiques and complaints to me/us, I want to hear it all, because I want to face it openly and head on, treating you and everyone else like adults with a brain instead of like wallets with switches I need to flip. (whether we end up making you happy or not) Crimson, Angel-Corlux had been through this exact thing before. Please read the above quote which is giving you what you're looking for. The benefit of having this forum format is so that we don't have to repeat what we have said like in a chat room. My perspective on this includes looking at Bloodless and knowing censorship isn't a factor. She is naked in a tub of blood when you find her. It's an animated cut scene too. She makes her clothes and umbrella out if blood then proceeds to shower Miriam in a torrent of blood. As you weaken Bloodless her clothes cover less and less of her body. Then her shard impales a screaming Miriam. Don't get too caught up on minor changes. You don't have to like IGA's changes, but telling him what you want over what he decides on is just as bad as what you are concerned about. There is so much more to this game and this community than this topic, man. Have fun with us in celebrating IGA's return to making real games that Konami wouldn't. Make the best of it.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 2, 2018 0:04:23 GMT -6
gunlocksp email Orders@fangamer.com with this for faster help.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 1, 2018 19:41:22 GMT -6
Kind of disappointed about the exclusive dlc question. I think the only people who should have a say in what happens with the exclusive backer dlc are the backers!!!! This question should be sent back out to only the backers. I vote for it to be exclusive to only backers. Makes perfect sense to me. Question The answer to this from Facebook was that 79% of the survey takers were backers. I think that's a pretty satisfying answer. I don't think another poll would be useful.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 1, 2018 18:00:11 GMT -6
roguedragon05 first of all, how dare you? Secondly, how dare you?
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