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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 23:14:05 GMT -6
Yeah, I was talking about this with some folks elsewhere. It seems ZoE3 might have been a reimagining/reboot where the mechs were more like suits of power armor worn by girls
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 21:10:16 GMT -6
Sounds cool, Goob Is it a webcomic series or physical comic book? My day was good so far, tummy is all better, reading a lot of horror novels/novellettes bought off Kindle 8)
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 16:50:42 GMT -6
Yeah, I heard about this a little while ago. Like I said elsewhere, given the success of the other Castlevania adaptations (or more specifically, the lack thereof), I'm not hoping for much from this...I'd certainly love to be proved wrong, though XD
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 16:44:11 GMT -6
Well, two things in response to this: First, my choice of example may have been flawed, since I don't think most of Bloodstained's music will have lyrics. If Symphony of the Night is anything to go by, we may have an opening or ending song with lyrics, but for the most part it'll be instrumented. Second, there's nothing inherent in the definition of jazz that prevents a jazz composition from incorporating minor keys, melancholy melodies, etc. Granted, I suspect I don't have as much formal compositional training as you do so I may end up conceding this point, but from what I've read the defining properties of jazz include things such as blue notes, syncopation, and improvisation. As far as I know, there's nothing about those things that precludes scary or ominous music. Now, this isn't entirely true. I would say you have a point, that jazz does have an 'anti-establishment' (so to speak) aspect to it, but not all jazz tunes are upbeat and optimistic. I can think of several that are very slow paced and contemplative--in fact, that's why jazz songs were often used in the soundtracks of noir mysteries back in the day, to sent up an atmosphere of mystery and ensconce the viewer in a shady, dangerous milieu. I think you acknowledge that when you say, But I also think it's a fair response to ask you to be a bit more specific when you talk about a "gothic context." I don't mean to be confrontational or anything; I'm genuinely curious. How do you define a 'gothic context?' For instance, why is metal appropriate for a gothic setting? You mentioned earlier it was because of the chord progression being derived from/similar to gothic or classical compositions. If that's the case, however, wouldn't a jazz composition in a minor key involving gothic/baroque/classical chord progressions be acceptable? I certainly wouldn't deny any metal/gothic similarities, but I don't see how metal is *inherently* or *necessarily* more gothic than jazz. Fair enough, though I think it may be a little early to worry about that just yet...there's no guarantee any jazz (or pop, swing, etc.) will show up in Bloodstained I wouldn't be surprised if one or two jazzy tracks showed up, but I think it's a fair bet the OST, when released, won't be full of nothing but jazz. I agree, that would be inappropriate, since diversity is a good thing in music Yeah, I agree with most of that. I would wager we might get a fully orchestrated or otherwise improved version of the Bloodstained Theme with something better than a Midi keyboard when the game comes out, though
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 15:57:42 GMT -6
Well, it was just the first vid on Youtube I found titled 'Gothic Jazz.' I could look for more, but the point I was making is that there's not necessarily any reason one couldn't have gothic-inspired jazz tracks, i.e compositions with Gothic or Baroque chord progressions and Jazz inspired instrumentation (like saxophones and stuff). If anybody could pull it off, I bet Yamane and the Bloodstained team could
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 14:15:35 GMT -6
Oof! I hope it goes well, Nezuto *hugs*
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 14:15:10 GMT -6
It's fine, Andriu, I'm not offended And it's a legitimate question. The thing is, consider how eclectic Castlevania music has traditionally been. If we really wanted "period/setting appropriate pieces," the only music would be religious hymns, Baroque music, etc. etc. etc. But Castlevania has always had snazzy, poppy tunes, or metal/hard rock songs. Bloody Tears, for instance, aside from maybe the opening notes, and especially in some of its other iterations, is pretty metal/rock, and those genres didn't emerge until well after the 18th/19th century (though they did take inspiration from earlier forms). A lot of folks like musical diversity as much as they like diversity in the game's setting. If the castle can have a coliseum (from the Roman era, not medieval or post-Renaissance periods), hanging gardens (from AoS, and hanging gardens were originally from Babylon), and other kinds of anachronistic but interesting stages, there's no reason not to expect anachronistic but interesting music as well. Oh, I am all for musical diversity, truly. But out of all the genres out there, "jazz" isn't the thing I think of when I think of a gothic setting. Now metal I can TOTALLY see being an aspect of the musical expression; many of the chord progressions are derived from classical music, not to mention many of the themes expressed in metal music have to do with dark or gothic subject matters. There is a way to compose a piece of music to make a player feel amped without simultaneously wanting to make them thrust pelvis to a disco ball. Jazz just seems too... optimistic? Like, killing demons inside a monstrously gigantic demon castle whilst continuously facing mortal danger isn't something that I think jazz/disco/j-pop is appropriate for. Yeah, but remember there's a lot of different types of jazz out there. Just like some forms of metal are closer to classic/Baroque/Gothic forms than others (symphonic metal, for instance), there's also stuff like Gothic jazz, so I've heard. ;o
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 0:09:07 GMT -6
It's fine, Andriu, I'm not offended And it's a legitimate question. The thing is, consider how eclectic Castlevania music has traditionally been. If we really wanted "period/setting appropriate pieces," the only music would be religious hymns, Baroque music, etc. etc. etc. But Castlevania has always had snazzy, poppy tunes, or metal/hard rock songs. Bloody Tears, for instance, aside from maybe the opening notes, and especially in some of its other iterations, is pretty metal/rock, and those genres didn't emerge until well after the 18th/19th century (though they did take inspiration from earlier forms). A lot of folks like musical diversity as much as they like diversity in the game's setting. If the castle can have a coliseum (from the Roman era, not medieval or post-Renaissance periods), hanging gardens (from AoS, and hanging gardens were originally from Babylon), and other kinds of anachronistic but interesting stages, there's no reason not to expect anachronistic but interesting music as well.
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 21:45:56 GMT -6
Good going, Dragon! I'm sure you'll get the job Can you ask your highschool for another copy of the diploma? For me, today has been pretty good...my tummy troubles are finally going down, it seems. I spent most of the day recuperating and reading the Alien novels. 8)
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 21:44:39 GMT -6
Digital steam version for me
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 17:43:30 GMT -6
Yeah, I agree with Togposh Also, Castlevania has had some jazzy/R&B influenced tracks before, like Crystal Teardrop and Opus 13, so I think Yamane, Virt, Yamada, etc. would be able to find a way to make jazz work in Bloodstained
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 17:34:04 GMT -6
Hehe, I don't think Lely was being mean, he was probably just joking around--I know him well, he's a good guy That said, yeah, Bible Black goes way beyond lewd, all the way to gross, for a lot of people...x-x Still, a lot of folks have worked on a lot of things in Japan, it's the nature of the industry--any prolific artist will probably get hired to do something off-color at some point, given enough time at work. I don't think this game should be too weird, regardless of its staff
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 16:22:43 GMT -6
Hmm...wouldn't that sort of apply to Alucard? He's half vampire and distrusted by the people because of it, despite his noble nature...
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 16:19:51 GMT -6
Oh my, looking really good!
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 9:02:23 GMT -6
*hugs* TY lely. Good luck with your court case too
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 0:42:27 GMT -6
Oh man, what a terrible day today.
I must have eaten something bad last night--maybe some bad pizza--because I woke up this morning with stomach cramps, chills, aching all over, and diarrhea! Making things worse was that I was sore from working out yesterday. I'm feeling a little better now, though still a little stomach crampy and diarrheay, but I couldn't get any work done earlier because I was feeling so bad. ;_;
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 0:25:07 GMT -6
I've known of a few settings where demons are occasionally or even often nice, but those are almost never 'traditional' demons, or else the setting is trying to grind an axe against traditional religious belief XD In the Myth Adventures series, there are plenty of good guy demons, but "demon" is just a catch all term for interdimensional traveler rather than a servant of Hell. Considering how evil Hell is, any 'good' demon would either be a rebel against Hell or not associated with Hell at all.
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 24, 2015 15:00:08 GMT -6
I haven't played a MGS game in a very long time, despite the fact I used to love the series...t-t I hear the new one is really good, maybe I should give it a whirl again
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 24, 2015 1:39:01 GMT -6
Oh lord, too many to count...I guess I have a soft spot for Morrigan Aensland from Darkstalkers (I'm a straight male)
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 24, 2015 0:24:01 GMT -6
Fire Emblem 7 XD
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