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Post by Kaius on Aug 11, 2015 3:39:56 GMT -6
So far, I like the main theme as much as Cursed Orphan. I also like all the remixes you can find on Youtube. I really cannot wait the whole soundtrack.
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Post by Rigel on Aug 11, 2015 18:11:15 GMT -6
I love Cursed Orphan, I really do. That guitar is insane and it has all the igavania vibe. Its one of my favorite Igavania tracks now, but Yamane's track doesnt stays behind, it is amazing too. By hearing this two awesome tracks I can tell that Bloodstained OST will be epic.
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Post by Togposh on Aug 11, 2015 18:47:37 GMT -6
I love Cursed Orphan, I really do. That guitar is insane and it has all the igavania vibe. Its one of my favorite Igavania tracks now, but Yamane's track doesnt stays behind, it is amazing too. By hearing this two awesome tracks I can tell that Bloodstained OST will be epic. I agree fully they are both great pieces.
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Post by otaconxwolf on Aug 11, 2015 20:00:18 GMT -6
I personally feel that the music is right on spot.
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Post by Brainiac on Aug 20, 2015 19:23:20 GMT -6
No complaints from me. Michiru Yamane's pedigree amongst the 'vanias is pretty much a given at this point and I've not had issue with the work of Ippo Yamada or Jake "virt" Kaufman before either. The two tracks I've heard thus far both feel on-point despite the difference in style (though I'd really like to hear a track from virt as well soon).
I look forward to my complete soundtrack almost as much as the full game.
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Post by Togposh on Aug 20, 2015 19:38:10 GMT -6
Glad so many people like the music as much as me.
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Post by Astaroth on Aug 22, 2015 10:16:16 GMT -6
these are up there with Tragic Prince *squees
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Post by aindriu on Aug 25, 2015 15:37:03 GMT -6
So far, the music sounds decent enough. However, I am nervous; although Symphony of the Night had some pretty amazing music set to it, many of the later installments immediately removed me from an immersive experience thanks to the unfitting j-pop/disco/jazz compositions, namely in Portrait of Ruin. My personal favorite of Michiru Yamane is, although the midi sounds were limited, her work with Bloodlines.
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Post by Togposh on Aug 25, 2015 16:31:07 GMT -6
Jazz is never unfitting ... but that's just my thoughts on the matter.
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Post by aindriu on Aug 25, 2015 16:39:52 GMT -6
Jazz is never unfitting ... but that's just my thoughts on the matter. What makes you feel this way? I would like to try and understand; to me, it seems incorrect to score 18-19th century gothic imagery and themes with upbeat jazz music.
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Post by Togposh on Aug 25, 2015 16:54:00 GMT -6
Jazz is never unfitting ... but that's just my thoughts on the matter. What makes you feel this way? I would like to try and understand; to me, it seems incorrect to score 18-19th century gothic imagery and themes with upbeat jazz music. because jazz is love jazz is life, thought i do admit it is a bit weird i like all the same.
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 25, 2015 17:43:30 GMT -6
Yeah, I agree with Togposh Also, Castlevania has had some jazzy/R&B influenced tracks before, like Crystal Teardrop and Opus 13, so I think Yamane, Virt, Yamada, etc. would be able to find a way to make jazz work in Bloodstained
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Post by aindriu on Aug 26, 2015 0:00:00 GMT -6
Yeah, I agree with Togposh Also, Castlevania has had some jazzy/R&B influenced tracks before, like Crystal Teardrop and Opus 13, so I think Yamane, Virt, Yamada, etc. would be able to find a way to make jazz work in Bloodstained I thought those tracks specifically were off-putting. I think there were a total of 7 songs from the Symphony of the Night soundtrack that I truly 100% liked and didn't just tolerate. I once actually turned off the sound and played Malice Mizer's "Bara no Seidou" album on repeat and it was quite a satisfying experience. I am not trying to insult your music taste; I am actually quite fond of jazz in certain contexts, but I am legitimately trying to wrap my head around the idea of enthusiasm for this kind of music to be put in this kind of game. It just doesn't make logical sense to me.
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 0:09:07 GMT -6
It's fine, Andriu, I'm not offended And it's a legitimate question. The thing is, consider how eclectic Castlevania music has traditionally been. If we really wanted "period/setting appropriate pieces," the only music would be religious hymns, Baroque music, etc. etc. etc. But Castlevania has always had snazzy, poppy tunes, or metal/hard rock songs. Bloody Tears, for instance, aside from maybe the opening notes, and especially in some of its other iterations, is pretty metal/rock, and those genres didn't emerge until well after the 18th/19th century (though they did take inspiration from earlier forms). A lot of folks like musical diversity as much as they like diversity in the game's setting. If the castle can have a coliseum (from the Roman era, not medieval or post-Renaissance periods), hanging gardens (from AoS, and hanging gardens were originally from Babylon), and other kinds of anachronistic but interesting stages, there's no reason not to expect anachronistic but interesting music as well.
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Post by aindriu on Aug 26, 2015 0:28:37 GMT -6
It's fine, Andriu, I'm not offended And it's a legitimate question. The thing is, consider how eclectic Castlevania music has traditionally been. If we really wanted "period/setting appropriate pieces," the only music would be religious hymns, Baroque music, etc. etc. etc. But Castlevania has always had snazzy, poppy tunes, or metal/hard rock songs. Bloody Tears, for instance, aside from maybe the opening notes, and especially in some of its other iterations, is pretty metal/rock, and those genres didn't emerge until well after the 18th/19th century (though they did take inspiration from earlier forms). A lot of folks like musical diversity as much as they like diversity in the game's setting. If the castle can have a coliseum (from the Roman era, not medieval or post-Renaissance periods), hanging gardens (from AoS, and hanging gardens were originally from Babylon), and other kinds of anachronistic but interesting stages, there's no reason not to expect anachronistic but interesting music as well. Oh, I am all for musical diversity, truly. But out of all the genres out there, "jazz" isn't the thing I think of when I think of a gothic setting. Now metal I can TOTALLY see being an aspect of the musical expression; many of the chord progressions are derived from classical music, not to mention many of the themes expressed in metal music have to do with dark or gothic subject matters. There is a way to compose a piece of music to make a player feel amped without simultaneously wanting to make them thrust pelvis to a disco ball. Jazz just seems too... optimistic? Like, killing demons inside a monstrously gigantic demon castle whilst continuously facing mortal danger isn't something that I think jazz/disco/j-pop is appropriate for.
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Post by aindriu on Aug 26, 2015 0:31:06 GMT -6
Do you know what Castlevania music was 100% perfect in every level with absolutely no room for complaints or criticisms? Super Castlevania IV.
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 14:15:10 GMT -6
It's fine, Andriu, I'm not offended And it's a legitimate question. The thing is, consider how eclectic Castlevania music has traditionally been. If we really wanted "period/setting appropriate pieces," the only music would be religious hymns, Baroque music, etc. etc. etc. But Castlevania has always had snazzy, poppy tunes, or metal/hard rock songs. Bloody Tears, for instance, aside from maybe the opening notes, and especially in some of its other iterations, is pretty metal/rock, and those genres didn't emerge until well after the 18th/19th century (though they did take inspiration from earlier forms). A lot of folks like musical diversity as much as they like diversity in the game's setting. If the castle can have a coliseum (from the Roman era, not medieval or post-Renaissance periods), hanging gardens (from AoS, and hanging gardens were originally from Babylon), and other kinds of anachronistic but interesting stages, there's no reason not to expect anachronistic but interesting music as well. Oh, I am all for musical diversity, truly. But out of all the genres out there, "jazz" isn't the thing I think of when I think of a gothic setting. Now metal I can TOTALLY see being an aspect of the musical expression; many of the chord progressions are derived from classical music, not to mention many of the themes expressed in metal music have to do with dark or gothic subject matters. There is a way to compose a piece of music to make a player feel amped without simultaneously wanting to make them thrust pelvis to a disco ball. Jazz just seems too... optimistic? Like, killing demons inside a monstrously gigantic demon castle whilst continuously facing mortal danger isn't something that I think jazz/disco/j-pop is appropriate for. Yeah, but remember there's a lot of different types of jazz out there. Just like some forms of metal are closer to classic/Baroque/Gothic forms than others (symphonic metal, for instance), there's also stuff like Gothic jazz, so I've heard. ;o
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Post by aindriu on Aug 26, 2015 14:57:43 GMT -6
Oh, I am all for musical diversity, truly. But out of all the genres out there, "jazz" isn't the thing I think of when I think of a gothic setting. Now metal I can TOTALLY see being an aspect of the musical expression; many of the chord progressions are derived from classical music, not to mention many of the themes expressed in metal music have to do with dark or gothic subject matters. There is a way to compose a piece of music to make a player feel amped without simultaneously wanting to make them thrust pelvis to a disco ball. Jazz just seems too... optimistic? Like, killing demons inside a monstrously gigantic demon castle whilst continuously facing mortal danger isn't something that I think jazz/disco/j-pop is appropriate for. Yeah, but remember there's a lot of different types of jazz out there. Just like some forms of metal are closer to classic/Baroque/Gothic forms than others (symphonic metal, for instance), there's also stuff like Gothic jazz, so I've heard. ;o I know there's many different types of jazz. To me, the only jazz that's listenable is bebop and old timey 1920's-40's jazz, and NONE of it is gothic. I'm not digging that link at all. It sounds like a typical church hymn/ballad set to opera vocals. Just because she looks spooky doesn't mean that her music is gothic by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 26, 2015 15:57:42 GMT -6
Well, it was just the first vid on Youtube I found titled 'Gothic Jazz.' I could look for more, but the point I was making is that there's not necessarily any reason one couldn't have gothic-inspired jazz tracks, i.e compositions with Gothic or Baroque chord progressions and Jazz inspired instrumentation (like saxophones and stuff). If anybody could pull it off, I bet Yamane and the Bloodstained team could
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