Bloodstained Graphics Discussion.

Am I the only one who likes the tilt? It feels more modern. I'm afraid with everyone shouting boo to the tilt, they will take it away altogether. I don't want it gone. It would look too much like an old 8-bit/16-bit game with 3d backgrounds. I think the game will look awesome if it looks similar to Mirror of Fate or DXC but with better lighting, effects, etc. Actually, Trine 2 is an amazing example of how this game should look in my eyes:



There is considerable tilt here and it works extremely well.

I haven't played Trine 2, but going by the image you posted there doesn't appear to be much (if any) tilt at all.

Personally I want the tilt gone but it's not going to kill me if they keep it in. As long as the controls are tight and Miriam isn't a floaty mess like say the guy from Shadow Complex they can have as much tilt as they want.

The tilt seems fine to me however it can be tweaked, i still need to see more to actually give an opinion about it and other details. I believe devs know thousand times better than me or any of us about the better way to go, not to mention Iga is working close and hard with devs on these details.

I just hope people don't get too concerned about the 3D-ish of it, i know we are all used to the sprite-based games and this is completely different. It's hard to have a glimpse of gameplay and graphic atmosphere from a static screenshot from a single room (a room just for test and show the shaders) so i am just waiting patiently to see it in motion, it feels too early to discuss graphics in general. But i like to see the concerning, it just shows how everyone really cares about it.

I agree. I'm a fan of architecture detail. The one I pointed out sacrifices that a bit, but it still looks cool.

I will say that I'll be very happy if IGA goes the 2.5 route because it makes the most sense in this situation. SOTN and the portable games were great on their platform but I really want the game to be the next evolution of IGAvania games. Of course the game should be like the previous IGAvania games we love but I would like them to exploit the hardware and the money and have graphics that make this game truly look like a new IGAvania game for this generation.I am no expert on the types of graphics and jargon so my descriptions are going to be how I imagine the game in my head. Something like a much more polished Dracula X Chronicles. At the same time if it graphically looks like Muramasa Rebirth on the Vita then that's also fine with me. Graphics with more polish that definitely belong on new systems that wouldn't be possible on weaker systems. Personally I was very satisfied from Shader 1, if they go with a style like that and improve upon it I think it will be good.

Since the game is rendered in 3D I don't see why they can't have the lighting change over time. Like towards the beginning of the game it looks like the initial shader tests but as you get closer to the end and the "an ancient evil awakens" (I assume) final boss they could have it get darker with the red light streaming through the windows and stuff.

I dunno, I never really felt much dread or whatever playing many newer Castlevania games. I mean I think people get the idea you're supposed to think that way cuz it has undead, death, dracula, and vampires oh my... Sure sounds like something scary! But Dracula has always had some pretty good taste in home furnishings and whatnot =P..

As for BS, there's even less reason to be dark and gloomy. I mean I agree there should be portions like that, like a catacombs/crypt/abandoned poriton/etc... but this is a Castle some guy intends to live in, and we don't neccesarily know if he fancies himself as a grim and scary guy or not, so I don't know if that's the right logic in this case.

The environments should certainly be colorful and striking. I wasn't trying to imply that things should be "dark and gritty" or washed out with shades of grey and brown. My point was more to emphasize the importance of shadow and contrast.

It's also certainly true that while this game is clearly an Igavania being made for fans of Iga's CV games, it's also NOT CV, so not all of the traits and traditions of CV need apply. Just glancing at the pile of concept art Inti has already come up with, it's immediately clear that BS has much more of an anime-style influence than most CV titles so I'm not expecting a purely medieval European-influenced castle/game. However, I do hope that the team doesn't go full Castlevania: Judgement... yikes.

It's also true that, presumably, the Castle should reflect the nature and state of its owner, Gebel. Without knowing much about the character, it's very hard to predict the influence he'll have on the game. However, we do know that he is suffering from the same corruption that Miriam is, and perhaps even more so. He's actually who I had in mind when I mentioned the castle being home to the damned. While I'm not sure what the ultimate end is for someone with this corruption, it certainly seems to be a sentence that's all but terminal, even if only for only for the victim's soul. That would certainly leave one with feelings of melancholy and hopelessness, if not anger and bitterness. Both CV's Dracula and Alucard could be similarly described on several occasions throughout the series, as well as the source material Dracula comes from. All of this is to say that it's not a stretch to imagine a fair amount of hopelessness and cynicism would be reflected in Gebel's Castle.

But hey, who knows, right?

I know this is concept, but try to think of the shaders applied to areas like this, where its a unified theme and color scheme, how does that change how these shaders will interact with all of them?

Im actually really curious about the tower, will it spin as you climb it so you can see all sides of it, will you go into it at points and still see monsters flying around outside, will it get foggier as you reach the top?