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Post by Scuttlest on Nov 16, 2015 13:31:47 GMT -6
Heh, kind of funny the discussion that was triggered by my jokey comment about Squall. (Though I do honestly like him more then Cloud.) Squall probably is my favorite protagonist in the franchise. Though ever since Dissidia came along, I've become very fond of the Warrior of Light as well. (And Garland. While I don't find FFI itself to be all that notable, I loved Dissidia's take on FFI's characters.)
*ahem* Moving on, Cloud's inclusion also probably means that we'll be getting a Cloud amiibo as well. And hopefully it can get the same surprisingly large amount of functionality that the other third-party amiibos have received.
I really thought the amiibos of the third-party characters would be limited to functionality in Smash, and games with generic 'any amiibo' effects like Amiibo Tap. Then Super Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wooly World's amiibo functionality came along. Not to mention the amiibo costumes in Mario Kart 8.
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Post by H on Nov 17, 2015 15:37:16 GMT -6
I was actually surprised to find that there was an outrage about him being included tbh. I guess that is understandable considering we don't really know how many slots are truly left, but damn is it hard to satisfy the fans haha. I am excited to use the new stage, hear the nostalgic music, and just overall figure out the ins/outs of this character. I personally voted for both Crono and Shantae, but with Cloud I guess we already have our Square character. Hope they still bring in Shantae.
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Post by Goobsausage on Nov 17, 2015 18:18:21 GMT -6
I was actually surprised to find that there was an outrage about him being included tbh. I guess that is understandable considering we don't really know how many slots are truly left, but damn is it hard to satisfy the fans haha. I am excited to use the new stage, hear the nostalgic music, and just overall figure out the ins/outs of this character. I personally voted for both Crono and Shantae, but with Cloud I guess we already have our Square character. Hope they still bring in Shantae. Same here. I saw some people getting upset over Cloud and I was like "Seriously? Why are people mad?". Then I remembered it was the internet. I don't think Cloud's situation is any different than Pac-Man's. They're recognizable characters, their original games are still the most famous/popular things they've been in, and nobody really cares that much about their past appearances on Nintendo consoles.
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Post by thrashinuva on Nov 18, 2015 0:20:31 GMT -6
*ahem* Moving on, Cloud's inclusion also probably means that we'll be getting a Cloud amiibo as well. And hopefully it can get the same surprisingly large amount of functionality that the other third-party amiibos have received. I really thought the amiibos of the third-party characters would be limited to functionality in Smash, and games with generic 'any amiibo' effects like Amiibo Tap. Then Super Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wooly World's amiibo functionality came along. Not to mention the amiibo costumes in Mario Kart 8. This made me realize Cloud will also be in Super Mario Bros. now, 8-bit style.
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Post by Astaroth on Nov 18, 2015 1:14:12 GMT -6
lol, a cloud amiibo in tap wont make it past the opening cutscene
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Post by thrashinuva on Nov 18, 2015 3:59:05 GMT -6
So FF7 is absolutely my favorite game of all time, and it has remained so since I first played it back in '97. I was absolutely blown away and excited about the remake announcement, and I'm super excited for the news in December. I just didn't think I'd get another huge FF7 shocker in between E3 and December.
Now that I think about it I was at work for both announcements, but I saw a rumor for FF7R early that morning so I decided to watch the E3 stream on my phone and tried to watch out for it, and I still could barely believe my eyes. Fast forward to day of Nintendo Direct and I'm just keeping track of the Reddit topic as the Direct plays, refreshing for interesting details. Not super excited about the direct considering Iwata, but I wanted to know what comes out of it and peoples impressions, though I planned to watch it later anyways. Not ready for this at all, I finally refresh and it just bombshells me. I take the time to find that video as soon as I can lol. Each of his fucking attacks is a limit break and Midgar is a stage holy shit. I played Smash again today and I plan on playing Ike more just so I can get used to his sword delay, as I predict Cloud will have a delay in his attacks as well.
This whole year has practically put me in shock.
Bloodstained FFVII Remake (ridiculously long time dream of mine) Last Guardian Shenmue III (not personally excited but the vibes get to me) Kingdom Hearts III trailer Xenoblade Chronicles X Mario Maker brings back that lovely SMB3 style (yet another favorite game of all time Undertale Fuck I can't think of what else Cloud in Smash Bros (yet another ridiculously long time dream of mine)
I don't even remember anything that happened pre-Bloodstained this year.
Literally 2 of my top favorite games just met each other, and I'm an extreme gamer. I haven't been able to express my enthusiasm until now and it's all just like exploding out. All week I've just been thinking "Now it's time to break out my "Real Main"!" My top favorite games literally went 1. FF7; 2. SMB3; and now it's like 1. FF7; 2. Smash 4; 3. SMB3
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Post by Apollonian on Nov 18, 2015 5:47:34 GMT -6
This whole year has practically put me in shock. Bloodstained FFVII Remake (ridiculously long time dream of mine) Last Guardian Shenmue III (not personally excited but the vibes get to me) Kingdom Hearts III trailer Xenoblade Chronicles X Mario Maker brings back that lovely SMB3 style (yet another favorite game of all time Undertale Fuck I can't think of what elseCloud in Smash Bros (yet another ridiculously long time dream of mine) I don't even remember anything that happened pre-Bloodstained this year. I missed that game's announcement. What systems does it come out on?
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Post by Goobsausage on Nov 18, 2015 16:01:40 GMT -6
This whole year has practically put me in shock. Bloodstained FFVII Remake (ridiculously long time dream of mine) Last Guardian Shenmue III (not personally excited but the vibes get to me) Kingdom Hearts III trailer Xenoblade Chronicles X Mario Maker brings back that lovely SMB3 style (yet another favorite game of all time Undertale Fuck I can't think of what elseCloud in Smash Bros (yet another ridiculously long time dream of mine) I don't even remember anything that happened pre-Bloodstained this year. I missed that game's announcement. What systems does it come out on? Ouya.
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Post by thrashinuva on Nov 18, 2015 16:16:18 GMT -6
Mighty no. 9 had a chance to release in this year of dreams but it got delayed. So did Starfox and Zelda. Tri force heroes has been begging me to buy it, however.
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Post by Apollonian on Nov 18, 2015 17:21:32 GMT -6
Guess I'll dust mine off. lol
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Post by Scuttlest on Nov 18, 2015 18:09:20 GMT -6
Incidentially, was it ever covered here that the December stream will be the last Smash stream? www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2015/November/Nintendo-Direct-returns-with-Wii-U-and-Nintendo-3DS-line-up-details-for-Christmas-and-beyond-1068261.html"Additionally, a special broadcast – the last one for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS – will be released in December." Whatever characters get announced in that stream will probably be the final DLC characters. We still have two more characters to be confirmed for the game. Tbh, DLC characters and training amiibo fighters are really the only thing that bring me back to Smash 4. I burnt out quicker on the 4th Smash then I did on any other Smash game. It's certainly a polished game, but for some reason it didn't grab me like the original, Melee, and Brawl did.
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Post by Zechs on Nov 18, 2015 20:28:39 GMT -6
For me, it has been downhill ever since Melee. Melee was just fantastic. Brawl was good in it's own right, though I hated my character tripping or as I call it 'taking a sit break'.
This new one feels better than Brawl, but still feels lacking. I Didn't get into amiibo so the characters is all I play the game for. With some faves being axed, Star Wolf for example, so I'm hoping the next few characters are worthwhile. I doubt the ones I voted for will show up, but still hope they tickle my fancy.
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Post by BalancedHydra on Nov 19, 2015 14:26:38 GMT -6
With Cloud, who is Sony's and Square's baby, coming to Smash 4. I took the liberty of creating a list of game developers that hasn't been featured yet in this game. Keep in mind this is subjective. This is my list and mine alone. Enjoy.
Konami: Simon Belmont. I know, Snake appeared in the previous game and people wants him back as the Konami representative. TBH, I’d rather have Simon for a number of reasons. 1) Simon has a much richer history with Nintendo than Snake. I know that we’ve had some Metal Gear games on Nintendo consoles (first one being on the NES) but when people think Konami and Nintendo, Castlevania is the more likely answer. 2) With Equipment in the game, it would be nice that Zero Suit Samus didn’t have a monopoly on Whip equipment.
Final Smash Idea: Something like Megaman’s where we have a Castlevania all-star roster pwning the unlucky target(s)
Yes. I hail from the Dungeon and I am not ashamed to admit it. *Represents... albeit maybe poorly*
Riot Games: Draven. Why Riot Games? League of Legends is the most popular game in the world for a reason. It is the #1 reason why eSports is a thing right now. With over 100 champions in that game, we have no shortage of ideas on who would be the ‘Face of LoL’ on a Nintendo console. Why Draven? Why not put that Show-boating, Narcissist executioner in? Besides. Smash could use some more villain love.
Also. Link vs Draven. Rematch of GameFAQS Character Battle IX. Draven won BTW.
Final Smash Idea: Why not just use his ultimate?
Blizzard: Sarah Kerrigan/Queen of blades. Blizzard has many iconic characters in their collective franchises. Limiting to just one felt like ripping all but one of my limbs off. Ultimately (Yes. I have all my limbs), it came down to two. The Lost Vikings and Kerrigan. Why Kerrigan? 1) The lost Vikings would probably remind people of Ice Climbers and I don’t want to piss off the Nintendo Fan base any more than I already do with this list of suggestions. 2) More villain representation. 3) Queen B***h of the Universe. HOW DO YOU TOP THAT?
Final Smash Idea: A literal Zerg rush across the screen.
Microsoft: Master Chief. Let’s get one thing clear. I’ve never played any Halo games outside of Halo 1. That being so, I do recognize how important Halo is important to gamers so. Here.
Final Smash: No clue, maybe you guys can post ideas
Ubisoft: Jade (Beyond Good and Evil). I know that Ubisoft have more popular franchises but I chose Jade to remind gamers that she does exist and to remind Ubisoft that we are STILL waiting on Beyond Good and Evil 2.
Final Smash: (insert something here)
Atlus: Shin Megami Tensei 4 Protagonist. He’s the best choice. The game is built to introduce newcomers to the franchise and Nintendo and Atlus don’t mind the occasional shameless advertisement.
Final Smash: Something like Duck Hunt dog but with some of the more iconic demons from the game.
Bioware: Revan (Knights of the Old Republic). Even to this day, KotOR1 is still one of the most (if not THE most) beloved game from Bioware. Plus Revan can double over as a LucasArts representative as well. 2 for 1 isn’t a bad deal.
Final Smash: A flurry of lightsaber strikes followed by a torrent of Force powers.
Bethesda Games: Dovankiin. Do I even need to explain this one?
Eidos: Adam Jensen. With Another Deus Ex coming why not capitalize on this opportunity. Besides, Adam did show up on the Wii U with the director’s cut.
Final Smash: Typhoon system. Limited range but very powerful explosions surrounding Adam for massive damage if not outright smash power.
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Post by H on Nov 19, 2015 15:06:06 GMT -6
BalancedHydraHaving a Star Wars character would actually be pretty awesome. Not sure why it hadn't even occurred to me before. I feel Vader is the more well-known symbol though, or at least he'd have the better chance. He's also crossed over before to Soul Calibur right? He's been in quite a few games too with lots of creative movesets to choose from.
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Post by Dragon_of_Dojima on Nov 19, 2015 23:17:06 GMT -6
I'm actually pretty excited for that Smash showcase. It's always a fun watch.
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Post by thrashinuva on Nov 20, 2015 17:28:34 GMT -6
I don't think I'm cool with these realistic characters in smash. Snake barely worked as it is and they had to make some stretches with him. He's a huge icon which was why he got a pass, honestly. As it is, both Cloud and Snake are the two smash characters that have the most plot in their own games. Not even Link can compete with his many titles.
Cloud himself is a tiny stretch. His world is dark and gritty and centered around reality, but still heavily based in fantasy. Cloud is a believable character but still heavily rooted in fantasy and so he has many stylish attacks, which all were used as his attacks in smash. Snake had attacks practically invented for him, it was the only way.
That said, I would like to see some jokes with Big Boss and Sephiroth chatting it up.
Characters like Adam Jensen have a variety of attacks perfect for smash, but their style directly clashes with Smash. Again Snake had the wrong style but he is an icon of the entire industry. You can't call Adam Jensen an icon, especially as he fills the same shoes.
Characters like Shovel Knight and Miriam are quality smash material (Miriam from what I can tell right now anyways). You just risk drowning the roster out at this point, though it's just a risk, and not a sure thing.
No one wants to see their favorite characters go away, but as it stands right now adding more characters will fill up the screen, or they're going to have to make us start picking characters by first selecting what game they're from, first.
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Post by H on Nov 21, 2015 9:47:01 GMT -6
I think realistic characters could work very well sometimes. Captain Falcon for example was just a race pilot person, but they got creative with him and now he's a lot of people's favourites. Overall as long as we get more variety and less clones I'm fine with whatever character they introduce... And more stages with fun music/gimmicks of course
Still want to see a Vader vs Mewtwo battle though... maybe a Death Star battle stage too. Or Coruscant fighting on top of all those flying vehicles?
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Post by Zechs on Nov 21, 2015 20:38:18 GMT -6
Speaking about realistic characters but changing the topic slightly, I think two characters in particular should have been part of the roster. Both from Mario RPG: Geno and Mallow. Jinx could fit as an annoying little fighter extra. Bur both are quite unrealistic but would have been perfect for the Smash Universe. With their specials and weapons being Smash abilities.
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Post by Ixbran on Dec 9, 2015 8:48:50 GMT -6
Some news on the upcoming Smash Bros. Event The one thing I hope to be announced at this event is
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Post by Galamoth on Dec 9, 2015 11:41:23 GMT -6
Yep, I hope the winning characters of the Smash Ballot are announced.
I don't think Cloud was one of them. Sakurai had to have been planning to include him since before the Ballot.
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