The leveling system, your preference from other Iga games?

I would have a proficency leveling system akin to Final Fantasy II; i.e. Spells get better the often you use them and so does your points in them. Weaponstypes would deal more damage etc.

Why? So that a NG+ would create a greater challenge than just increased enemy stats and you can concentrate of being that powerful Person in the end, but you need really to put something in.

A fair trade could be, while weapon stats increase, your spellstats would decrease and vice versa... though it really depends, if both ways to fight, would be equally important and thus it would create just the average character, which would be dull in the end.

Anyway, if a proficency way to increase your stats could be done, I would be all up for it. Though I guess this is not the most favored way of leveling around these lands. Correct me if I'm mistaken!

OoE it is than :3

Unfortunately I never played it!

Well, that's fine if "max level" in the game doesn't mean "you are completely maxed out on everything in such a way that you can kill absolutely everything easily and absolutely nothing can do any damage to you", and I reached that state at around level 50 in SotN. What's the point if even Dracula does about 3 damage to me per attack. And I WASN'T EVEN GRINDING, just playing the game.

When I was level 49 in Dawn of Sorrow, however, both Aguni and Death (especially Death, and oh yes, Paranoia) were completely capable of creaming me if I didn't fight well.

What I'm trying to say is, "the level you get to by the end of the game" shouldn't just be "I win", unless you put a ridiculous, disproportionate amount of hours into it. I know there are people who purposefully nerf themselves when playing SotN just to make it harder, but I shouldn't have to do that. I'd much rather run into a position where I'm like "oof, this is tough, I should probably go get some better stuff, maybe level up a few times", than "oh boy, this is so easy, I wish I WEREN'T SO POWERFUL".

This is hard, because I don't like level scaling either. I think level scaling is like a really poor man's version of balance. It CAN work, but it's HARD to make work in a way that lets you feel like you're still making substantial progress.

Definitely OoE-style. That was awesome!

i suggest a modifiable NG+, one where replays have a Relic called a Lode Stone that freezes your xp/stat/whatever gains so you can set your own difficulty (even doing something as crazy as a lvl 1 run), and perhaps an NG- option where you keep your stuff (since you can change your equipment) and it resets your level/stats/whatever and the enemy boosts to a 1st game tier, that gives you a huge amount of replayability and choice in how you play your game, and even lets you control your power curve

I'm currently running a modified Naked Alucard run in 99 luck mode. I'm gunning for 200.6% and it's gonna be a real doozy. Even around level 50 in standard 99 luck mode, Dracula and Shaft could still do some decent damage. I don't think we'll have any problems with the difficulty regardless. I mean people will always find ways to make things more balanced or difficulty by themselves.

Thank you I really did not like level scaling. But I do see your point in regards to SotN. after lvel 50 nothing can really get in your way. 

OoE did do some level scaling. Mostly with traps. And even though you can get to level 255 some enemies can still do 300+ damage to you if you just stand there. 


On other posts regarding to choose when to level I feel that these systems would be a great inclusion for this game but not a must have for an Igavania title. If they were implemented well it can really open up replayability not just for NG+ but a regular new game, potentially allowing you to make character builds for people like heavy focus on magic or physical. 

EDIT: sigh wish PoR would be winning this poll. I like the idea of keeping some stats over to NG+ but being max level at the start just kills the early game for me xD. 

EDIT2: Both portrait of ruin and order of ecclesia allow you to play level 1 hard cap. Although you can use a NG+ to access this and start out with really good equipment it is still a challenge to some and give you rediculous permanent rewards at the end. In PoR you get 3 items that boost LUK, INT, and STR by 50. And in OoE you unlock level 255 cap as well as a helm that halves hearts for item crashes. 

The more playable characters there are the less I want a reseting level system. Especially if each character may have a plot to them and not just allow the second and third character to play in the castle.