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Post by Question on Jun 21, 2018 11:25:37 GMT -6
Announcements from the Kickstarter page listed below: Update #69, Backer Beta Demo Update from IGA In regards to the Backer Beta Demo for Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, our launch date has changed from June 21st to June 28th. We sincerely apologize for this delay. We showcased the demo at E3, but after watching many people play the demo, we found a couple of bugs that we want to fix and several adjustments we wanted to make in order to deliver a better beta experience. We were very busy supporting the demo for E3, and we have been working all the way up to today’s release date to try to avoid pushing it back, but we were not quite able to complete the work that needs to be done to make the beta experience a great one for backers. As a result, we are forced to delay from the promised date, and we are very sorry. Please continue to look forward to the beta a little longer, and thank you for your patience. – IGA 「お待たせしている、Bloodstained: Ritual of the nightのベータバッカーデモですが、大変申 し訳ないのですが、日程を6月21日から6月28日に延期させてください。 E3で出展したのです が、そこでのプレイを見て、バグを見つけ、もう少し手を入れたくなりまして、もっと良い形 で配布したいと考えました。 今日までできる限り間に合わせるために頑張りましたが、より良いベータの体験をバッカーに お届けしたいと思いました。 その結果、約束から遅れてしまい、申し訳ないです。 もう少し、お待ちいただければと存じます。」 Message from 505 Hello everyone, Roberto (Angel-Corlux) here from 505 Games. As Iga just described, unfortunately we’re going to need to delay the Beta Backer Demo until June 28th, 2018 due to the above mentioned reasons. ArtPlay and 505 are a team and as such, we’d also like to apologize to you for this unexpected delay. We know it sucks to not have your hands on the demo yet, but we hope you’ll lend us your understanding as we work to make sure the demo is the best experience for you all. One advantage that will come of this is that the feedback you all will provide will not focus on some of the common issues we ran into with the E3 2018 build. Again, we really regret not being able to deliver the Beta Backer Demo on time to you, and we are immensely appreciative of your patience and understanding. A special ‘extra’ apology goes out to those among you who may have taken a day off to really dig into the demo. Please come talk to us in the usual places, Twitter, Discord, Forums, etc., and feel free to ask any questions you may have. As always, we want to be honest and straightforward with you, thanks again everyone for your patience. |
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 21, 2018 11:54:26 GMT -6
Lipsync will NOT be fixed in the beta, but the team is aware of the feedback.
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Post by Hugh Baldwin on Jun 21, 2018 12:04:44 GMT -6
That's sad, but its okay.
Just one more week!
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Post by Astaroth on Jun 21, 2018 12:20:52 GMT -6
cool, hope it goes well on yalls end, the demo seems to be doing its job already and im looking forward to breaking it in a week  |
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Post by kronfarfar on Jun 21, 2018 12:30:38 GMT -6
Sure another week is not that long but the thing is that in the light of the disaster that was the Curse of the Moon delay this delay wasn't very tactical.
Two delays back to back will surely aggrivate backers and cause exagirated headlines.
In my opinion they should have just released the demo today because updates about delays are not what Bloodstained needs right now.
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Post by Arsenical on Jun 21, 2018 14:57:27 GMT -6
I love this game and the team behind it, but this time i think i need to be honest and say what i think even if some people would consider this to be negativity or hate. first of all, i won't even get the chance to play to demo because im no pc gamer, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't be concernerd with this matter. Okay... so you are telling me that the demo that was supposed to come TODAY was suddenly delayed because the team wanted to fix some bugs? isn't the point of the beta testing to find bugs and report them as well as giving feedback? you mentioned they pushed hard to deliver the demo TODAY but they failed and they are delaying it 1 whole week and we get to know about this delay the very same day we were expecting to get the demo? im sorry but i don't buy that. what kind of bug was it that they had to do such a drastic move? was it game breaking? hard to believe it since it made it to the E3. This morning i woke up and before going to work i came to check for updates and couldn't find a thing so i just went to work happily expecting to come back later and find some vids but nope... instead i find sad news. personally i have always tried to be positive about this game and tried to ignore negativity or even criticism but sadly the name Bloodstained keeps getting tarnished with delays and problems with the delivery of the product. sure Curse of the Moon is another story but it is still related to Bloodstained. and with lord IGA hinting the game will probably come in 2019 and not in 2018 as we were told before, the things keep getting more and more suspcious.
its been over half a year now and we still don't have a release date and the hint we got for 2018 its slowly crumbling. i have faith in  but with how the things are going it just keeps getting harder to defend this game. I understand that **** happens, but this time i am truly Disappointed  |
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 21, 2018 16:23:06 GMT -6
Arsenical I'll let 505 speak on statement itself regarding its timing if they want, but how it's worded in the update is, per IGA: "We were very busy supporting the demo for E3, and we have been working all the way up to today’s release date to try to avoid pushing it back, but we were not quite able to complete the work that needs to be done to make the beta experience a great one for backers". From this, it's meant to me that they did not want/intend to do this delay until just the moment such was announced, unfortunately. I do not believe they were only talking about the "couple of bugs" mentioned earlier in the update here, more the "several adjustments we wanted to make in order to deliver a better beta experience". As far as the beta's intent, the purpose of a beta is to gather feedback on things that need to be fixed/bugs, yeah. However they're going ahead and fixing the things they've already heard about so we're not wasting our and their time telling about things they already know. The idea is of course to get new information. If here on the forum we take in 1000+ bug reports and they are mostly all the obvious things brought to their attention at E3, we may as well have not done the thing. Selfishly too as a moderator myself and being one that will peruse and watch over that exchange, it'd be a shame for all that work to be so fruitless.
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Post by giwagiwa on Jun 21, 2018 18:09:22 GMT -6
You guys could just hire 2-3 good testers and find these problems before-hand instead of letting the public be your alpha testers.
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Post by yulia11 on Jun 21, 2018 18:31:26 GMT -6
You guys could just hire 2-3 good testers and find these problems before-hand instead of letting the public be your alpha testers. Sometimes it's less of a bug and more of a unpleasent feature. I will admit the facial animation bug sounds terrible. |
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Post by ovenkitty on Jun 21, 2018 18:35:18 GMT -6
Disappointed, but at least I get next week-end off too.
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Post by Arsenical on Jun 21, 2018 23:32:40 GMT -6
Arsenical I'll let 505 speak on statement itself regarding its timing if they want, but how it's worded in the update is, per IGA: "We were very busy supporting the demo for E3, and we have been working all the way up to today’s release date to try to avoid pushing it back, but we were not quite able to complete the work that needs to be done to make the beta experience a great one for backers". From this, it's meant to me that they did not want/intend to do this delay until just the moment such was announced, unfortunately. I do not believe they were only talking about the "couple of bugs" mentioned earlier in the update here, more the "several adjustments we wanted to make in order to deliver a better beta experience". As far as the beta's intent, the purpose of a beta is to gather feedback on things that need to be fixed/bugs, yeah. However they're going ahead and fixing the things they've already heard about so we're not wasting our and their time telling about things they already know. The idea is of course to get new information. If here on the forum we take in 1000+ bug reports and they are mostly all the obvious things brought to their attention at E3, we may as well have not done the thing. Selfishly too as a moderator myself and being one that will peruse and watch over that exchange, it'd be a shame for all that work to be so fruitless. You are right there. I see your point and honestly what really bothered me was the sudden update, it is my fault for letting the hype rise to much. After thinking about it i see how a buggy demo can be worse than a 1 week delay. Im still disappointed, but i hope the demo makes me forget this incident with its greatness. |
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Post by zurcn on Jun 22, 2018 9:39:29 GMT -6
You guys could just hire 2-3 good testers and find these problems before-hand instead of letting the public be your alpha testers. you get the part where we (the kickstarter backers) are not the general "public". and that the whole point of having a Beta demo before release is EXACTLY to not let the "public be your alpha testers" |
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Post by Leinbo Belmont on Jun 22, 2018 15:09:04 GMT -6
Better to get the bugs out now, especially ones that could end up crashing a game or locking it. Cause the way I see it, a weeks wait in worth is less the annoyance than having to deal with multiple bugs already reported AND any new ones that may come along the way.
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Post by Saint Germain on Jun 22, 2018 21:56:30 GMT -6
Does not really bother me my pc is trash any way. But I hope everything goes well and their is not to much rancor like their was with the spin off game code disbursement.
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Post by JeffCross on Jun 27, 2018 7:37:26 GMT -6
Had no problem with the delay... as you guys saw on the backer survey, we don't mind delays. But please Question and Angel-Corlux give us ample time to register it. I love how this project has been handled... there were no surprises, if something was happening we would be told well in advance But the way the beta was handled was atrocious. I don't know who decided to hold off on telling us about the delay... I personally think that was a bad move... if there is a heavy chance for such a delay tell us in advance, we will be fine with it (or most of us will be fine with it) but dropping a delay the day something supposed to come out... that disappointed me (and probably others). anyway... I know this is kind of a dead (or dying) thread and I bet Question and Angel-Corlux most likely read that other thread " Update on Beta Backer Demo" I just wanted to state my disappointment since I did not see them in that thread. Anyway I do want to thank you guys for your awesome work on the game so far (this is not sarcastic I do truly mean that) and besides this one bump, I feel you guys are doing an excellent job! still hyped for the game and can't wait until tomorrow for the beta. |
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Post by Angel-Corlux on Jun 27, 2018 10:28:27 GMT -6
Had no problem with the delay... as you guys saw on the backer survey, we don't mind delays. But please Question and Angel-Corlux give us ample time to register it. I love how this project has been handled... there were no surprises, if something was happening we would be told well in advance But the way the beta was handled was atrocious. I don't know who decided to hold off on telling us about the delay... I personally think that was a bad move... if there is a heavy chance for such a delay tell us in advance, we will be fine with it (or most of us will be fine with it) but dropping a delay the day something supposed to come out... that disappointed me (and probably others). anyway... I know this is kind of a dead (or dying) thread and I bet Question and Angel-Corlux Angel-Corlux most likely read that other thread " Update on Beta Backer Demo" I just wanted to state my disappointment since I did not see them in that thread. Anyway I do want to thank you guys for your awesome work on the game so far (this is not sarcastic I do truly mean that) and besides this one bump, I feel you guys are doing an excellent job! still hyped for the game and can't wait until tomorrow for the beta.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support, and for your negative feedback as well! I really mean that, as much as we love hearing our praises sung (who doesn't) we also want to improve and know what everyone is thinking.  |
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Post by Leinbo Belmont on Jun 27, 2018 22:57:09 GMT -6
Today is the 28th, now to wait and see if the Demo pops up and when it pops up I am sure I and a crap load of others are going to play the unholy hell out of it.
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Post by sylver on Jun 28, 2018 1:10:40 GMT -6
Leinbo BelmontHell yeah.. I am sitting here and switch starring between my Steam library, my Email Account and my Backer Download Code Survey, hoping the Demo might pop up any second. 
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Post by neff on Jun 28, 2018 6:56:51 GMT -6
One week has passed.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 28, 2018 7:05:40 GMT -6
Go get your codes!
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but with how the things are going it just keeps getting harder to defend this game.
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