Backer Exclusive Content?

A significant part of this whole thing to consider guys is that this promise/idea was made with people that are no longer involved, and the people who are now responsible for "keeping the promise" are different individuals. ArtPlay (perhaps just IGA, obviously not Mana and I'm not sure about Curry) was there, but the publisher (505 Games) and new development groups were not.

The IGA boss itself was an idea pushed for that he himself didn't initially agree with, so it certainly wasn't Igarashi's idea. Not sure on the swordwhip, but Sword vs Whip was a Fangamer creation and what the item kind of spawned from.

So I would not say that this would be a case of them going back on their word, changing their minds, or symbolic of a dishonest society and all that. Many of the people who sat around a table and talked out these decisions aren't even on the team making the game anymore. Iga obviously conceded/agreed with the ideas of things, certainly, but we know how nice of a guy he is and wanting to do everything right for his fans. Being stuck into a corner of a hard decision like this wasn't chosen by the people who inherited it, or his intention in making his project the best it could be, trusting the counsel of those around him.

I'm not "blaming" this whole thing on Inti Creates, mind you, or excusing the others of responsibility. That responsibility is certainly there, and everyone involved is taking it seriously, but regardless of the actions taken, I would not be looking at all this as someone changing their mind or lying.

While this is technically true regarding Kickstarter, going off and doing something other than promised just because you can just seems like giving a big middle finger to those who backed and had a specific set of expectations.

I think a thing to remember is that a decision hasn't been made. And so far they've been pretty up front with us about discussions being had and some reasons why.

It's easy to sit back and think of this from a personal point of view. I, myself, try to look at things from all angles.

I believe when they started this they were forthright and honest. If there's even a discussion being had I have to think there might be a reason behind it.

Also, Enkeria, you have to remember that when something is digital it'll never stay 'locked'. There are *always* ways for people to potentially get things even if they didn't back the game. I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling the way you do. I totally get you.

I think the in game exclusive content is a very bad idea.

Some backers backed the game because of the exclusive content, they would not have backed the game if the exclusive content is not exclusive. They would rather buy it after the game is released.

For non backers, the non backer version is "inferior". Why would they want to pay the same amount as the backers for the inferior version? they can download the pirated version for free.

That's the reason why I think the exclusive content should be phycial but not in game content so that the pirated version doesn't have any advantage over the normal version.



I am willing to share the backer content with non backers. However, a promise is a promise, I hope the team can find a solution to the problem.

Thing is, I am usually very kind and want everyone to have the best. But giving all you got to this project (all money you have / time / effort) seems like a big deal to me. And getting that extra back is appreciated. I do not even buy games every year, I do not back either. This was a project I wanted to back, and the exclusive things is amazing.

It's just a shame, once in a life you believe its real, but then it might not be so. Due to a simple little word called "exclusive". But yeah. Last time I write about this subject. I know whats best for the community, and that is no exclusive things at all. Mass-production cost money, but it would be the best alternative. Give everyone everything. < I am not sarcastic or ironic, that as a market is the way to go. Just such a shame. I wanted to feel a bit more special. Dammit.

Feel broken inside now. *waving white flag

Well I for one (and I think most others) was just talking about the Iga boss and Whipsword no longer being exclusive, and honestly if you still feel your right don't ever let anyone tell you your wrong. I don't think there would be enough of a demand for keychains/artbooks and such to mass produce it anyways, least not yet.

Hands you Bloodless's umbrella to wave instead.

I mean, Enkeria, the same applies to digital content. Anyone can get it after the release when it's been hacked or pirated or datamined or whatever. The only difference is that such methods are both illegal and free of charge while someone can sell physical goods legally and at a price. Again, to reiterate what our friends above have said, this isn't to say that you're wrong for feeling as you do, I'm just pointing out how people will behave, you know how assiduous hackers and such can be

By "assiduous" he means persistent btw haha

But also insidious asses

But some hackers are good, don't hack me plsssss

Perhaps instead of keeping it back exclusive, they shift down the rewards the $60 tier gets the $100 tier, the $100 tier gets the $150 tier, so on and so forth. I don't know how that would shift the budget of the game but I think if that were to be done many backers would be happy and then everyone gets the IGA boss and the sword whip. 

The problem with that(at least on pc) is that I can just look it up, Nintendo has been giving out pc and phone wallpapers with their reward system but you can find them anywhere on the internet.

Enkeria Gin I suppose they would have to make something new perhaps a new t-shirt or maybe having an area in the game with their portrait in it.

The problem is no matter what they give, we can easily find it on the internet.

For the exclusive item, physical item is better than digital because no one can reproduce it. I find that bloodstained theme can make good tarot cards.

Jowy Avilon well in your example, if it proves true that they release the backer content to everyone (we don't know yet), you would have still saved yourself quite a bit of money on that. It's very unlikely that the retail version of Bloodstained will be $25-28, and as you know you'd be getting a lot of physical things that retail won't. This is just regarding the weapon/boss.

Sure, Steam Bloodstained + this content might be $25 somewhere way down the line on a Steam sale or something, but I'm thinking that it as a package (if they release it to everyone and charge for it) would be 50-60 or so. Again assuming this even becomes a thing.

Angel-Corlux had an interesting Idea "Another avenue I'm investigating is potentially releasing the backer exclusive content to everyone (via deluxe edition or not) but backers get special skins/cosmetics for those items." Seems like a fair trade to me. But it also just occurred to me...

"...special skins/cosmetics for those items." My understanding was there would be one item.

"The mighty swordwhip
A super-powerful hidden boss
A Backer Edition slipcase (for physical tiers)"

But of course this could mean a different look to the boss and Swordwhip. I like to read into things.