RPG Elements in Bloodstained?

Cale thanks for your answer... I just hope they include this in the Bloodstained XD

I don't want to get to that point where to get max level you have to keep killing Golden Golems with 9999 Hp and 9999 Defence just to level up. Balance is important, if I want to kill bats for 32 hours to get from level 95 to 96 shouldn't that be my choice?

I generally dislike games that allow you to level items up. Because that encourages you to hoard level item leveling materials, then blow them all at once on some good drop or another, then you're basically 'stuck' with that item forever.

Leveling up your character does NOT neccesarily make a game easy, it just depends on how easy it is to level, how significant levels are, and how well enemies scale in the game. I dislike how dark souls is like the standard for games people consider not easy, because there are countless more difficult games before it. But it really does make a good example of how level ups can make a meaningful impact on your character, but truth is if you're having trouble with something at level 200, being level 250 wont make THAT much of a difference.

Then there are games like Ys, where the leveling is extremely...monitored...basically when you enter a new dungeon that's pretty high level for you, the enemies practically 1shot you and you take like 30 hits to kill one..but you level up after killing a single one like 4 times in a row, then in all of like 3 minutes only, you'll be able to survive 4 hits from them and take like 8 hits to kill em... 3 more minutes, and they'll be giving you only 1 experience point each and you need like 60k to level. It's really pretty silly how fast those games go from making you level up faster than light, to not leveling at all when you are the appropriate level.

In any case, I want this game to offer the player some customization with their levels. Strength, vitality, luck, etc... Some people dislike doing this because they feel insecure about their choice, but fact is these games can normally let you get by simply by rotating them 1 at a time. These aren't online MMOs where people will kick you from the group if you aren't the 'proper' spec. Just do whatever and have fun with it... then you can play the game again with a completely different set of level up choices, the game will feel different, you'll enjoy it, and you can do it again. what's not to like?

Err, you miss my point. I'm trying to say that sometimes, a solution isn't even required depending on how significant leveling up is. You can't solve a problem without a problem existing in the first place. Sometimes level mechanics make a game too easy yes, sometimes they don't... sometimes when they make the game too easy, the dynamics of that problem are different. For example. Sometimes games have additive/subtractive damage formulas, and allow the player to make their character full on defense and take 1s and 0s from virtually everything. The solution to this problem woudln't necessarily be making level ups slower or weaker, but to make the damage formulas multiplicative, or perhaps by adding a piercing element to all attacks, or something. However this wouldn't necessarily solve other games where leveling up makes it too easy.

I'm all over proposing solutions and ideas to problems, but 'leveling problem' is just too vague without a specific example.

One concept I really dislike though is making it so every enemy you encounter magically leveling up with you whenever you level up. This imo makes the whole leveling process meaningless, and oftentimes makes it so there are arbitrary bad levels and good levels depending on the part of the game you are at. A great example of this being done in a way that's just horrible is the SNES RPG The 7th saga. *shudders*.

I hate when enemies level up with you. It makes leveling pointless like you said.

Now to rant off topic a little. It reminds me of Big Number Syndrome. RPGs used to be fine with 4 digit cap. 9999 damage was max. But now we got 10k 100k 1000k damage floating around; after a certain point wouldn't it be easier (and less exciting) to make it all %? WOW I just did 0.5% damage. . .
I would rather have solid #s that are meaningful than large numbers.

Like a unique weapon, or area or something? I would think there'd be a bonus for something like beating the game at a lower level, adds to the challenge. 

I don't know how many people would go for that though...

Maybe that's how you get to fight IGA

Getting to Max level should never be the prerequisite for anything. In most of these games, when you get to max level, not only does it take a LONG time, but you wreck everything. Even with underpowered gear. That should be enough.