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Post by Goobsausage on Apr 25, 2017 14:50:34 GMT -6
If Bloodstained gets a character named Richard, could one say the game has Dick in it?
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Post by Kale on Apr 27, 2017 0:00:42 GMT -6
You have to understnad.... Rape is worst than killing. And nudity is part of rape. Ergo, worst than a nuclear explosion. Sometimes it's hard to tell between who's just being funny and who's just facepalm worthy. Take it however you wish, words are, after all, just words.
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Post by sylver on May 6, 2017 8:59:06 GMT -6
Gimme Boobs! Well, I don't really care about this artistic freedom stuff.. Iga should do, what he pleases. But please give Miriam an Shinoa-esque costume. She is my Igavania-All-Star-Idol
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Post by Enkeria on May 6, 2017 9:25:55 GMT -6
Gimme Boobs! Well, I don't really care about this artistic freedom stuff.. Iga should do, what he pleases. But please give Miriam an Shinoa-esque costume. She is my Igavania-All-Star-Idol I have no clue what that is, and too afraid to google it. But she has 2 alternative costumes what I know of, one being pure, other being what we have seen most of the time, both lolita. Also, we have had a few mods already, which could be very cool if they stay. One of them being a bit more goth than lolita (?) and a few others. I guess everything is possible at this moment because we do not know if even mods will be a thing that can be allowed. If it is, it will open up a door for very cool "skins", and with Steam attached, I hope the type of skins won't be too provocative. I really like the thought of having her as a Vampire, change full skin and costumes on the fly. The items in game will change her, but not her as a whole.
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Post by sylver on May 6, 2017 9:46:54 GMT -6
You mean Shanoa? (I mixed up an A for an I ^^) That was the main protag in the last Igavania.
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Post by Galamoth on May 6, 2017 9:50:06 GMT -6
^I'm sure that cosmetic customization features in this game may allow for something at least vaguely-similar to Shanoa's outfit.
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Post by Cernex on May 6, 2017 16:08:54 GMT -6
I'm fine with it as long as it is done tastefully. Not because I have taste, mind you (I enjoy my T&A), but beacuse it can put the game in trouble with all them video game sites that are looking for clicks so they're constantly looking for whatever controversy.
A statue or a monster that just happens to be naked? Yeah, sure, go ahead.
A lot of naked succubuses making out in the background for no reason? That will get you in trouble all right.
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Post by akuwa on May 6, 2017 17:52:02 GMT -6
I'm fine with it as long as it is done tastefully. Not because I have taste, mind you (I enjoy my T&A), but beacuse it can put the game in trouble with all them video game sites that are looking for clicks so they're constantly looking for whatever controversy. A statue or a monster that just happens to be naked? Yeah, sure, go ahead. A lot of naked succubuses making out in the background for no reason? That will get you in trouble all right. the thing with trouble is it brings attention to the game so that more people find out about it, the more people that find out about it the more that want to buy it, and regardless if that's positive or negative attention 99.6% of the people who would be interested in this game are pro nudity (see pole results) so almost everyone will see it as positive no matter how it's presented.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on May 6, 2017 19:40:06 GMT -6
While that may hold true in a general sense a lot of the time, I would rather Bloodstained not get a bunch of negative attention.
Good or bad end result, it would likely be a huge pain in the ass for us here as well as the team. It should garner all the attention it deserves from the people that need to see it on the merits of what it is.
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Post by Maker on May 6, 2017 21:34:20 GMT -6
You know who cares about controversy? People who don't play the game and show up to read articles instead of picking up a controller.
I hate to even bring myself up in conversation because I'm here so sporadically its almost like I'm dead these days. But compare the last time any of you read an article by say, IGN, and actually with your entire being believed everything, or anything there in. Most of the things I've read off sites with any big, well known to most name, are at most a painful read that makes you want to arbitrarily slap them, wait patiently for their birthday, show up and do it again. Sure they can have one or two you cite that break that mold, anyone is capable of hitting a good hole in one golf swing if you take hundreds or thousands, Infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters sort of comparison.
However my belief posted in my original post still stands. I'll blindly follow what Iga says is proper, even if I do not agree at all[/b] simply because it's his vision and he has more experience with this than I could shake a stick at. Be it nudity, violence, shiny rocks from the sky, whatever, as long as the aesthetic is proper to any degree and everything fits in the world, I'll have no complaints. (Which judging from past works I have no worries of)
It's wrong to ignore the media completely, that much is true. But its something else when you begin to allow their opinions inside your product. Especially considering the nature of Bloodstained specifically.
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Post by Kale on May 12, 2017 6:22:19 GMT -6
That's a rather weird stance to have... or rather declare to have. Why follow someone when you don't agree? I'm not saying all matters matter the same amount, but there's nothing wrong with voicing your opinion about it.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on May 12, 2017 8:30:55 GMT -6
He's talking about not allowing his personal biases to influence his appreciation of art/the game.
Here's a comparison, say you know a well-regarded chef personally to always serve great food. Sometimes you may see or get a whiff of one of his ingredients that you normally don't like, but you have faith based on past experiences that you're probably going to like the dish anyway because the chef knows good food. Knowing his audience (you), he may even be able to include these pieces he wants while also aiding or masking their inclusion somewhat with the clever mixing of other things.
At the very least, at the end of the day, even if you don't find yourself saying "wow, I really like fish now", you would have to say it was done well and being by one of your favorite chefs that also knows you, the sum of it was enjoyable in perhaps ways you didn't expect or foresee.
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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on May 12, 2017 16:24:21 GMT -6
I fucking HATE nudity. I don't give a FUCK about what men or women look like, I know what a penis looks like, you all know what a pair of breasts looks like, there's nothing to 'objectify'. I don't see why it's necessary or considered 'artistic'.
That being said, I of course would never step on someone else's opinion, it's just not for me.
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Post by XombieMike on May 12, 2017 17:20:27 GMT -6
I can't tell when people are trolling in this thread.
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Post by JoJo on May 13, 2017 6:33:14 GMT -6
I can't tell when people are trolling in this thread. Well, I hope you can lock this thread, I don't see the point worth discussing regarding this topic
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