The presence/strength of "holy" weapons/items

lol, good to see im not the only one who unespams dmitrii, though i ususally just une him to death and dont bother with anything else, i can keep him just out of range of me by jumping for a bit of extra distance and hell walk right into them and start tossing his at my feet >P

As others have noted, holy weapons are almost a necessity in an Igavania. I'd just like to see some fresh ones and have them be a great benefit to traversing certain areas of the castle.

I want to stay on topic, but as a quick segue, an added dynamic to holy sub-weapons that would be really cool would be the ability for them to potentially enhance the weapon you have equipped at a cost per use. Imagine the holy water soaked into a whip. Extra killing power at a cost per use. The cross could be used in conjunction with magic. Bless the cross with a freeze spell or fire spell for adding elemental damage, etc .

Charged/special attacks with holy sub-weapons as there have been in past Igavanias would be a much welcomed addition. In Richter mode for instance in SotN, you can press Triangle on the PlayStation and a much more powerful version of the sub-weapon is unleashed, costing a large sum of hearts, but absolutely worth it, as it works wonders on bosses - sort of a bonus for conserving hearts for boss battles.

As for main weapons, holy weapons have as much of a place as well. Remember that traditionally, holy weapons are most effective against dark/evil creatures and may actually be ineffective or less useful against some neutral/evil creatures that don't have a particular weakness to holy.

With that said, yes - holy sub-weapons and main weapons would have a place and would likely be useful to have in the game, but wouldn't be your best choice in every single battle.

The previous Igavania made extensive use of the holy weapons because it was vampire-related, whose source clearly talks about these things being effective against them and against the demons, but i am not sure it will be the case for Bloodstained universe. If you ask me i would like something more original, maybe "holy" itens based on alchemy instead of some random religious stuff, i mean why we should copy religious itens from a certain religion instead of a more creative and logic way to deal with the demons?

And if they indeed use religious stuff i would like something from and ancient old religion, ancient egypt comes to my mind. Anyway, i expect the game to be more original instead of use the same things as the previous ones.

In most (if not all) Igavania games he has a slew of elements including holy and darkness the elements are:

holy
darkness
fire
ice
thunder
earth
water

ummm... am I missing any?

I would like to see different or new types of elements in Bloodstained. Does anybody know the elements of alchemy? (If there are any)

Oh yeah forgot about wind, lol that's funny cause I've had gas all day (jk) butt really (sorry couldn't help it)... I was hoping for something like this:

or this


something a bit different front the over played nature elements.

Yeah but as you said they could only interpret things with their knowledge... It would be awesome if someone would seriously study alchemy with scientific eyes right now... you know try to understand the science behind the mysticism.  I wonder if they would find anything new...

whoa... I guess I also mean that the scientist who studies it has to also be open minded... if we walk around with preconceived blinders on, then we will get nowhere, right?  The modern world underestimates the past... sure they didn't have the understanding we do but they survived just the same...

IMO modern science is so blind to it's own merits and understanding that many cannot see what the past can contribute...

Like what if a "ritual" for a potion was timed? the timer could be the ritual it's self... when the ritual was done the chemical reaction became active... apparently not through the ritual it's self but the "time" it took for it to finish... can you see a mage or alchemist at the time say, "oh just wait 30mins"  no they would have to make up a timed ritual to "make" something work...

This is how I want a scientist to look at alchemy... just saying, oh those people in the past are just "this flat world, lightning is an earthquake in the sky, leaching cures ailments BS" people will never learn if they discovered things that we didn't...

Hey Angel-Corlux, check out my first post here lol.

*choir ahhhhhs*

Haha I'm not as much, now. This was well before Dominique was introduced, which confirmed to me the "church" as stated in her description has some kind of power. Even if she's not playable, seems that some kind of stuff in that vein will be usable items. Good enough to tide me over...but I appreciate this bit of info too!

Seeing you with the holy sword in the Bloodless thread and thinking about your first podcast reminded me again of this thread is all, thinking "wonder if I made it obvious enough that we feel very similarly about this stuff in games" ;p