Forge/Crafting & Item Drops

Well, when I said Legendary, I'm using it interchangeably with Uniques. Though.... unless there is some sort of dual weapon technique with like 2 Spears of Longinus' like 2 Heaven Swords. But I get what you mean, still... is it that big of an issue? Some people like farming like mad to get 99 of things. It's beyond me, but it's fun for some people.

Maybe an alternative is have it a single drop per playthrough, so if you want more, you have to play a new game or go to new game plus.

Yea, that is an alternative. I do like the idea of something being special that it's not seemingly readily available either.

I'm still hoping that crafting mostly works like my post above. How about you guys? We have a new crop of members nowadays, would be neat to hear some new thoughts.

I'm really sorry but i didn't read everything here. JeffCross talked to me about this thread, that it was revived, i gave him a sample idea of how the forging could work. He asked i should post it here too, so, here goes, a more detailed version of what i think about forging / crafting in Bloodstained.

I think the easiest system would be creating a piece of equipment by adding a base + 2 materials + magi-crystal (optional).

WHAT IS A BASE: the base defines what the equipment will be. A Long Sword, a Rapier, a Ring, or an Armor. Not only types, but the base has some definitions, such as Short Sword or Long Sword. But it is just that. The base just defines the basis of the equipment.

WHAT IS A MATERIAL: the materials are the main stuff that forms a piece of equipment. Things such as bronze, silver, gold, diamond, iron, steel, dark steel, alloy, cloth, mithrill, etc. Those materials define what the piece of equipment will be made of.

WHAT IS A MAGI-CRYSTAL: magi-crystals are magical crystals, a sub-product of both the magi-curse and the summoning of the demons themselves. They offer element attributes and special effects to those equipments, such as fire, ice, thunder, poison and maybe, some weird and rare ones like gravity or magnetism.
A piece of protective gear with a fire magi-crystal would offer extra resistance against fire, while a weapon with a fire magi-crystal would have fire damage, with fire animation and such.
As a simple example, Long Sword (Base) + Steel (Material 1) + Dark Steel (Material 2) + Ice Magi-Crystal = Icebrand 

In my view, there wouldn't be recipes or things like that. Either 100% of combinations would be possible or combinations that can't be done would return a "Fail!" result, being added to a failure list. Everytime you try to create a new piece of equipment that is a failure you already tried before, the game would warn you somehow. There could be some tips and recipes hidden in some documents or something like that, but not for every single piece of equipment.

I don't think Shards will be used to forge equipment, but maybe the will take place of the magi-crystals that they said were magical itens for forging. Who knows.

That is my basic forging system idea.

Thank you Pure Miriam it is good to see new thoughts on froging... and yes purifyweirdshard it is like putting in a code for certain weapons hahah I never thought of that... but that sounds awesome... still I think certain criteria should be met before those weapons could be turned into "special" weapons... like having certain stats and such...

Also I wonder if we can infuse some weapons with directional inputs specials when we forge them... wouldn't it be cool if you can make your favorite weapon with a special attack? maybe through scrolls or "essences"? I don't know what could contain special moves... anyone have ideas?

and one more thing... I kinda don't want I want to tag Angel-Corlux until we have a few more ideas...

Personally I don't mind recipes... but experimentation should be a big part of forging and crafting in this game IMO.

I don't know if this was talked about or not... but in the KS they said they would have 5 drops one for each body part (head, arms, legs... I think) but will they be just pieces or will they be monster parts to refine? like monster eyes, blood, bone, hair, skin (or hide), fur, teeth, claws, scales... etc... now here's the question, should we refine these parts or just use them in forging...

refined material for example would be:

eye - most likely taking powers from the eye like a monster that shoots fire from his eyes... you can extract fire essence
blood - monster Iron (or maybe just iron lol)
bone - bone meal
hair - thread or you can even refine it to rope
hide - leather

(I am not going to go through all of them lol)

so what do you guys think should we have monster parts to refine? or should we use these parts as is?

That would be awesome themed type weapons, from mini bosses or even full on bosses (look below for my boss idea) but instad of just themed weapons there could also be themed armor.

About the boss thing, we could have a boss rush thing where we can fight bosses after we defeat them in the game... or what if there was a way to "summon" the same boss in the rooms where we fought them... because in old castlevanias when you defeat a boss the boss room usually stays empty,,, what if there was a relic to revive bosses to fight them again as much as you wish maybe with significantly lower experience gained (because come on if their experience was the same we would farm experience for easy bosses)... or it would be nice to have an accessory that completely removes experience for higher drops.

I think I suggested it a while ago... what if we could have a "shard" blade a blade that looks like a shard... maybe they could be drops but instead of a regular shard it is an empty shard that the player can use as a base for a blade.

yeah, I was not talking about after you beat the game... one part of my suggestion was to have a boss rush mode, yes you have to do this outside of the the game, but I also suggested a way to summon the same bosses back to the empty boss rooms to fight them again... but this time they offer no experience (or reduced experience) for higher drop rates. this can be done during the main game.

I am with you, I hate starting the game all over again to get the best items when those items don't matter anymore it makes those "special" items superfluous. but if you can summon the same bosses through a relic if placed in the defeated boss's room then you can get everything in one play through.

And why does the summon item need to be gotten after a specific point in the game... I say we should be able to make them with common ingredients or have them available for purchase after a boss is defeated (or as soon as the shop is available).

I personally hate complicated things lol the simpler the better... you beat a boss and you can summon them anytime you want as long as you got the gold or material to get a summon relic. very simple.

I think if it is done that way we can get weapons based on those bosses quickly... or at the very least the first play through.

I see what you mean... but again it is an optional thing, you don't need to fight those bosses again. I just kinda want something to do with the money cause by the end you have a crap load of money right?

and summoning those bosses again... maybe they could be a different color just to show it is not the original boss, just the embodiment of the bosses, because the experience will be greatly decreased the only reason to fight them is to get their monster parts... and about being part of the story she is not resurrecting these bosses these summons are fragile they should not be able to hold a "summon" for very long.

again this is just a thought to farm boss drops... this can also be done in a boss rush mode. but I hate using those things...