Team Ladybug should make the next bloodstined game:

Team Ladybug hasn't made any big games yet, though, have they? I've played SMT Synchronicity Prologue and a little bit of Touhou Luna Nights, and they're relatively short. Also, I was always under the impression Team Ladybug was, like, one person. I'm glad to see they're bigger than that (they're technically twice the size of Team Cherry).

Don't get me wrong, though; I think they're pretty fun games. Team Ladybug tends to come up with some rather creative gameplay mechanics, and the sprite animation is nice on the eyes.

Maybe hold that thought until after the first game is done? Let's see what the current team can do before immediately handing the reins over to another company.

Plus, they seem very much like a pixel artist studio, in which case, please no. I like Shovel Knight as much as the next guy, but I honestly prefer the more modern 2D art and Bloodstained's 3D art over pixel art. I'd vastly prefer the next Igavania Bloodstained keep Ritual's graphical style. Most of Team Ladybug's stuff also seems very japanese art style oriented, whereas Bloodstained seems a lot more like the next iteration of the old Castlevania style, whatever is its name (gothic?).
Of course, Curse of the Moon style spin-off could be nice, and would fit their portfolio of smaller pixel art games.

On another note, how much of their game revolves around exploration and traversal, vs combat? The trailers had a lot of combat in them but didn't really sell me on anything else.

If everything was made by vanillaware art wise it would not hurt lol, but I get what you mean I still play old games all the time and adapt to them then play modern games and get blown away because I got used to the old game it's funny really. Still pixel art NES-Saturn/PS1 and the wierd clay cgi of late 90s early 2000s pc games will always have a place in my heart. 

Don't twist my words, either. I didn't say they were nothing. Nor did I state anything of the sort in regards to a...." blue cube that fought against tetris blocks with red shapes." Don't twist people's words to fit your ideals. My opinion was my own and I vocalized it and stated such. I was not making a personal opinion to sway others to think as I do, but to merely voice it. Good day.

Did not say I wasn't willing to discuss the topic. I had already stated in my opinion "This 'muh visulz' stuff is just a nice bonus, not what truly makes a game." Which is not saying nice graphics shouldn't exist and yes, they are a welcome addition to any game, but they do not make or break a game and never should be a major defining feature. Too many these days want more emphasis on visuals, to the point of extremely minor details needing to emulate real life and I feel that if games keep focusing on visuals and nothing else, we will see far more crappy titles than already exist.

My voicing of the matter was merely to point out that, in my own personal opinion, that while they're nice, if Bloodstained looked like CotM through and through, I wouldn't complain one bit. As long as story and gameplay were cohesive enough to make the game good.

I've also been involved in a few flame wars on this forum (thankfully they don't seem to happen often and mainly spiked after the beta demo) that resulted in my stepping away from the forum for months/year at a time and wanted to make clear that I was, in no way, going to argue semantics over visuals. I voiced my opinion and if it's not what anyone agrees with, ok, whatever. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and you're free to feel that visuals are a deciding factor of a good game, I and others have our own feelings that they're nice, but not truly necessary to a great experience. I mean, if no one liked older visuals in this day and age, why is it nearly all companies are trying to jump on the remake/retro release bandwagon as it's doing better than most AAA titles? Gamers know what they like and ones like myself have seen a thing or two that works/fails consistently over the years.

I tend to be pretty straightforward and blunt in the way I type/speak, so apologies if that was taken a little offensive or not. Just how I am and not going to change that for anything, including this topic. The good day was also meant in good spirits, not rudely.

Flipping the room's actually not difficult at all with modern hardware. You wouldn't have to draw transitional frames at all: just rotate the polygons the pixels are on and voila! The problem with pixel art for a game such as this is that it takes a lot more time and money to create high-quality 2D assets, though it also has the drawback you mention, that customization is more difficult to implement.

High-res 2D Art works well for games with fewer and less interactive stages, like Dragon's Crown (or anything else by Vanillaware, for that matter). It could work with something the size of Curse of the Moon, but to do an IGAvania in 2D you'd probably have to go low-res.

Classic Tetris is super nice. Can't speak for the graphics, but I play that over most 3D AAA-title games any day.

Bad graphics is okey, as long as it's not "wrong" graphic I enjoy games. And by "wrong" I mean "my taste".


Blasphemous. A hero having one huge drill as a forhead / hat. That's wrong to me, looks way to "not-my-taste" at all. Rest of the game seems fine. If I could mod it I would.

Hollow Knight. Not bad graphics, but wrong; everything looks the same, too much white and black. Stiffness. Dark backdrops mostly. Nothing seems interesting to me. Again, game could be awesome but I feel it's "Nope!"