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Post by yohine on Mar 18, 2018 3:16:05 GMT -6
I am a fan of this game. I like Castlevania Sotn's music the best in the series.
But need a big improvement for the music that is being published now. The sound of this movie is not a finished product right?
Arrangement and performance with lack of expressive power. Light orchestration and poor performance. The currently sound is still a prototype level. But this is the ability to pull users to the world! Yamane's old work is more powerful.
Especially important is a poor base and drum. Sounds and performances are not good either. With the recording of the performer who understood the game if possible.
I hope these improve by doing studio recording and final mixing!
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Post by gunlord500 on Mar 18, 2018 12:06:17 GMT -6
I am a fan of this game. I like Castlevania Sotn's music the best in the series. But need a big improvement for the music that is being published now. The sound of this movie is not a finished product right? Arrangement and performance with lack of expressive power. Light orchestration and poor performance. The currently sound is still a prototype level. But this is the ability to pull users to the world! Yamane's old work is more powerful. Especially important is a poor base and drum. Sounds and performances are not good either. With the recording of the performer who understood the game if possible. I hope these improve by doing studio recording and final mixing! Well, you can get an idea of the final sound in these samples: soundcloud.com/user-166428313 |
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Post by yohine on Mar 18, 2018 21:34:30 GMT -6
gunlord500
Thank you for the information. I will check it after return home.
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Post by yohine on Mar 19, 2018 6:23:36 GMT -6
I listened to the soundcloud. It seems that quality has not improved much yet. That drum and bass are still temporary stages. There is a "sample" written there. I'm sorry , but It's awful then. Quality does not rise using realistic orchestral recording simply. It is necessary to have a conductor that shows clear idea, and an accurate post-edit. If they are judged to be completed this, it is judged that the value of the game can be reduced(Indeed I think this possibility is low.). Please correct violin and guitar which are out of tuning. Just speaking is not convincing. I uploaded my hobby game arrangement tune 10 years ago. I was involved seriously about music production in the past. The completeness of these songs is not perfect. There are many problems. But there are many better points than those. I used Orchestral VST instruments mainly were QLSO and VSL. These musics are all PCM sampled instruments (not include vocal). So I will complete it at my desk at my home. I do not have to go out. Now start adventure! (From Etrian Odyssey)innocent-key.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/64ee3ae295b07f5c67a0a69a70cedee4.mp3Who is there? (A little eerie theme. From persona 4)innocent-key.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/P13.mp3Rose in nightmare (Original song that imagined Vampire)innocent-key.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/2017_s05.mp3Your consent to my music is unnecessary. Let 's pray improve the quality of bloodstained music. |
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Post by yohine on Mar 19, 2018 21:22:26 GMT -6
I found a video that can experience the power of music. Even in the same scene, the color you see depends on the music.
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Post by CastleDan on Mar 20, 2018 20:42:25 GMT -6
Well it doesn't seem like they have a HUGE orchestra to work with but to me it sounds very nice and much better than the synthesized versions of the songs.
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Post by chronogeran on Mar 21, 2018 12:01:09 GMT -6
I agree it sounds a lot better than pre-orchestration, but I do also hear some things that could be better. In terms of tuning, I think it's mostly pretty good, but there are a couple times the strings sound a bit off, like at the very beginning of Voyage of Promise. And I agree, I think the mixing could be improved a little; some of the frequency ranges seem a bit muddy, hard to hear the different parts coming together.
These are definitely things that could be changed as they finalize the tracks. And even if it sounds exactly like it does now, I won't be disappointed. I think it sounds pretty good.
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Post by yohine on Mar 22, 2018 1:44:18 GMT -6
The newly recorded version is getting better than the first published version. I agree with this.
But the improvement is a bit. Is that really enough? It was not as good as I expected. Of course it is written as a sample, so the conclusion is still early. But I was disappointed. This is my current impression.
The thing that I fear is that the release date will come without music quality being up. Currently there are many positive opinions on music at the forum. There are very few suggestions about music. But there are various requests about the game itself. Not only positive opinions. That is very contrasting.
Developers refer to feedback. They will not answer without a request. If no one says, I will say.
The past is not being beautified in memory. Old Castlevanian music is still powerful for "expressive power". If they are currently playing this level, they do not need a real orchestra. Real orchestra, good sound quality, these are not enough elements to move emotions. The current performance is only tracing a note.
For "expression power" it is necessary to have a clear completed image and precise instructions. It seems that the arranger still does not have a good completion image. I think that it is necessary to have a new precise conductor even now. It will be difficult to redo after the passage of time.
When I shout alone, it is meaningless.
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Post by CastleDan on Mar 22, 2018 16:29:51 GMT -6
yohineThe reason is because people may disagree with your assessment. A lot of people hear have loved the music and how it's sounded so far. You're definitely entitled to disliking it and voicing your concerns.You're asking people to share your opinion but you can't force that. I think people understand that a full orchestra costs a lot of money and they could afford what they could afford. So if you compare the sound of this to a game that can afford a full orchestra than sure it won't be as powerful but I don't think many people are arguing it sounds worse than synthesized sounds. So again, voice your concerns but you can't force others to also feel the exact same way as you. I've found much of the music to be powerful thus far and some of it rivals the best stuff from other games IGA has worked on.
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Post by yohine on Mar 22, 2018 18:51:51 GMT -6
I know that I can not force it. But there was an opinion I wanted to convey even if the possibility was 0%.
I said what I should say. It is only a lonely idea for now. The conclusion will be left to the people here and to the developers.
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Post by yohine on Mar 22, 2018 19:23:55 GMT -6
The opinion is over. I will talk about my bloodstained music feeling.
My thinking bloodstained music is a bit softer than Castlevania. Small orchestra is enough. I do not think the size of the orchestra is so much needed.
That is the image I received from published game videos. The smoothness of movement, character design, color of the logo are also affecting. This work seems to have multiple playable characters, but Miriam is towing them.
I think that composition of the main theme published is perfect. There are problems with playing and expressing though.
Of course if that late game stage is fiercer than the previous work it is not that limit. Metal sound and full orchestra music is also necessary for such a scene. But the work itself seems to be suitable for chamber music, pessimistic music.
Finally, I put it because his arrangement was good.
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Post by Lestaroth on Apr 1, 2018 15:26:47 GMT -6
Just hope for the best.
do not forget that the game is far from being done and that we only had access to a few unfinished tracks. It's just a preview to what's to come.
And then, it only fully fits when you play the game, so look forward to the next demo for more music experience.
Let's trust the composers and Noisy Croak! I'm sure they will deliver!
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