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Post by Lestaroth on Oct 2, 2017 19:49:23 GMT -6
What a question. Of course I agree.
That said, I share the exact words that Yugosalkins uttered. Dismissing Natsume's work like it never existed would be a terrible move. But yes, Mana's work to be put under the spotlight would bring something unprecedented (especially for the nostalgia-filled gamers that are still hesitant about the Bloodstained project).
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Post by Vampire on Oct 2, 2017 19:50:15 GMT -6
As soon as I got the email this old vampire got up and clicked all the "Yes" Mana is a brilliant artist,I like both art styles of course but Mana can contribute a lot to this project
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Post by Enkeria on Oct 2, 2017 19:54:48 GMT -6
Mana has my vote, but as long as Natsume-san's art isn't dismissed who also deserves credit. I'm definitely okay with that. His work will not be dismissed, and focused on the prequal game. Sadly he isn't involved in the main project anymore. Ayame have the slipcover too.
While I voted "yes", how would such a change impact the in-game visual aspects that we've already chosen via KS votes and moved on with? Namely, the shaders were chosen to be a closer approximation of Natsume's art. Even the character model is closer to Natsume's art than Mana, while Mana feels more representative of classic Igavania titles. Mana have probably already done a huge chunk of art. We believe she have done all the backer portraits and perhaps even some paintings spread across Gebel's castle.
For me Mana represent Bloodstained classic era of art.
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Post by dm151 on Oct 2, 2017 19:58:20 GMT -6
This is actually my second post after the demo so its kinda a big deal, THAT ART IS WONDERFUL I LOVE IT, its much more dark than the old one. Great work go ahead with it
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Post by dareka on Oct 2, 2017 20:00:04 GMT -6
This was a no-brainer - YES!
That said, I'm not saying her art's better than Natsume's, or that it should be more prominent than his.
I'm just saying it's really good, so the more we get, the better.
If you asked me whose art should grace the cover, I'd love for it to be Kojima's.
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Post by fatihG on Oct 2, 2017 20:00:35 GMT -6
Mana s art is great. The moment I found out that she did art and saw her work, I followed her everywhere i could find her on on social media. (Promise I am not a stalker!) At this point in development though I can only imagine her work to be featured as promotional materials though. If there are to be in game portrait they would most likely, and should be imo, shots of the 3d models. Just so that the in game visuals are consistent. Would be great to have her work as promo images, banners and all that other social media stuff. Boxart, posters, etc. If there is a sequal though I hope Mana becomes the head artist, just because her style is so gorgeous. The only concern I would have is that Mana would be swamped with work if she has to do her current responsibilities as well. If that is the case I hope she gets an assistent or someone else to take on some of her responsobilities. I just hope it doesnt get in the way of her daily workload.
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Post by deadsanto123 on Oct 2, 2017 20:01:27 GMT -6
Mana's art is fantastic
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Post by yulia11 on Oct 2, 2017 20:03:41 GMT -6
Don't think there is anyone better for this. Though there is a slight shift in style between two sketches.
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Post by exile on Oct 2, 2017 20:05:33 GMT -6
I can't overstate how badass Mana's art is. No disrespect at all to Natsume, whose art is also splendid. Still, Mana's I would frame and hang in my room. In fact, please consider pestering her to sign a poster and mail it to me because, you know, my paltry +1 forum vote totally merits that kind of individualized attention.
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Post by Valtiel on Oct 2, 2017 20:06:22 GMT -6
I'd prefer they use the art style advertised by the Kickstarter seeing as how that was part of the reason I backed, but looking at the poll results I see that's not going to happen. Mana's is nice but it feels a little too close to Castlevania in my opinion.
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Post by Cybuster on Oct 2, 2017 20:07:03 GMT -6
Enkeria So her art is already being used in game and for promotional use (ie: slipcase)
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Post by drazhar on Oct 2, 2017 20:07:12 GMT -6
No shame in admitting I've not spent near enough time on these forums (Hi everybody!)
But I had to come and vote YES for this.
Mana's art gives me that SotN through to Aria of Sorrow vibe, and I've sorely missed it.
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Post by gracidia on Oct 2, 2017 20:07:36 GMT -6
IGAvaniacs, do you want to see art for Bloodstained go the direction of Mana's style? I have loved Natsume-san's art as it helped define the game thus far. However I think it's critical to the marketing success of the game that the art is as good as possible. Mana's art style is upholding the legacy IGA is known for. Going forward with Bloodstained assets as well as for potential later games would be more successful with Mana's art. This is important, so listen up! Mana is the Communication Manager at ArtPlay which means she can't just walk up to IGA and say, "Hey, the fans really like my stuff, you should make me more involved in art." It's not her style to be so bold, and it would be obviously bias coming from her. THAT'S WHY WE NEED YOU. Big enough numbers will be communicated with evidence that it's we the fans asking. The polls on this forum require a registration, so it's not a small amount of people voting multiple times. We have integrity. It's the fans who care enough to come here and vote to make the game more successful who are showing what they think is important. Sure we could probably get more votes outside a place you have to register, but this is the forum ArtPlay pays for. If you know someone who is interested in Bloodstained, send them here just to vote. Let's get 1000+ votes guys. We don't even have 2000 registered members on this forum, but you are the Army of the Night! I know we can do this! Mana's Art Natsume-san's Art I'm only here because of some email telling me this is important. However, reading this I get the feeling this isn't something I want to vote for. There is nothing wrong with either of the art, but there is a lot I find to be questionable with the intent. From what I understand Natsume-san's art is what IGA has chosen and Mana's art is that something that you personally are pushing for. You said the artist herself can't go up to IGA and ask to be involved in the project because there would be bias and it would be unprofessional due to her existing position as an employee of ArtPlay. So then you would just gather a group of fans to ask instead in your place because ArtPlay is incapable of asking? That also doesn't sound very professional to me. Not to mention that the OP seems completely biased towards Mana. There is no mention of what Natsume-san's art detracts from the game or what it does for the game. I backed this game so I can enjoy a game that IGA himself envisioned, I believe the choice should be left to him and whoever has a hand in the creation and development. ArtPlay should make this proposal in an official capacity instead of trying to round up a bunch of fans to force the change by popular opinion. If IGA himself thinks changing artists is the right choice, then as a backer I have no objections whatsoever. This is just my opinion as someone who only reads the development updates and not acquainted with the community. Please correct me if I have my facts wrong.
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Post by meexa on Oct 2, 2017 20:09:26 GMT -6
The viewing angle and the placement of the tattoo on Mana's art. Seems just a bit sexier on the MC.
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Post by aqofficial on Oct 2, 2017 20:13:32 GMT -6
Natsume san is extremely talented don't get me wrong, but look at the detail in Mana san's artwork! Nothing is left out, and there's so many gorgeous things to look at! Mana nailed the style Ayami Kojima set forth 20 years ago (although with more realistic body and clothing proportions, but I liked the exaggeration too). I feel bad for Natsume, but if you're asking me which is better... Mana san wins. But if for some reason Mana san isn't available, Natsume san does bring a different eye and should be a second choice.
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Post by leiroth on Oct 2, 2017 20:13:34 GMT -6
Both styles are great, I prefer a darker tone and I think both art styles can co-exist
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Post by XombieMike on Oct 2, 2017 20:14:29 GMT -6
gracidia and everyone else. IntiCreates is no longer making assets for Bloodstained with the exception of the prequel mini game. I can't tell you exactly how I know this at this point in time, but I assure you it's true. This is our opportunity to get as close to Ayami Kojima as we are going to get.
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Post by BalancedHydra on Oct 2, 2017 20:17:02 GMT -6
Mana 's art is so clean and detailed that I just can't say no to it.
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Post by Enkeria on Oct 2, 2017 20:18:43 GMT -6
Enkeria So her art is already being used in game and for promotional use (ie: slipcase) Bit tired. I ment, Natsume made concept art for in game assets. How much, we do not know. Ayame made slipcase / slipcover. Mana are giving us more on top of that in game. How much, again, we do not know. There. I think I fixed it. Its 4 at night and I haven't gotten any sleep yet.
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