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Post by Kitti_W on Sept 11, 2016 11:52:20 GMT -6
I remember Iga said in some interview last year that he won't include Dracula in Bloodstained because he don't want Bloodstained to feel like a cheap copy of Castlevania. (If someone still have the link to that interview, please provide it) For those who don't know, Dracula is a public domain character. Which means he can appear in Bloodstained without any copyright issue. Iga just choose not to do that. The Belmont are out of the question. I believe Konami owns all Belmont characters. But what about Alucard? Is he a public domain character like his father? I tried googling but found nothing to prove this. It would be super cool to play as Alucard in Bloodstained. (though not the same Alucard from sotn, of course)
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Post by Kale on Sept 11, 2016 14:38:08 GMT -6
Can he? Probably not, unless Alucard is designed as basically a different character. If that's the case, there is no point to include the name, and might as well make a whole different character entirely. An example of this would be Alucard, in Hellsing, the anime. But since he's actually Dracula, he has that name for a purpose.
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Post by crocodile on Sept 11, 2016 14:56:47 GMT -6
Both Dracula and Alucard could be in Bloodstained - they are both public domain and there are a lot of Alucards in modern fiction. However, any Alucard in Bloodstained couldn't act or look anything like the Alucard from the Castlevania series because at that point Konami would have a legal argument. At that point, what would be the point of using an Alucard? Are you so attached to merely the name or the concept of "Son of Dracula" that you need to see it in Bloodstained? The series is trying to establish itself. Let it start and stand on its own merits rather than crib characters or character concepts from Castlevania. Save that for sequels if you have to do that. Sure, there is no doubt this game will take and pay homage to Castlevania but there is no need to be so direct or blatant. EDIT: Somehow I missed the Kale 's post. We basically agree <3
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Post by Ghostpepper on Sept 12, 2016 0:34:27 GMT -6
Neither are likely to appear officially on any level, even a cameo. This is where the mod community will take over, so don't you worry cause if you seek it out it will probably be there at some point.
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Post by Dengojin on Sept 12, 2016 3:14:48 GMT -6
Yes, IGA can make a vampire and name him Alucard with a different design and personality.
but the real question is, do we really need Alucard or Dracula ?
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Sept 12, 2016 8:06:00 GMT -6
Yeah, that's the thing. Could we do this? Yeah. Should we? Probably not.
I'm really thinking that Belgrade will be voicing Zangetsu and he will be suitably Alucard-ish, enough so to scratch that itch, but not so much so to seem like anything blatant/in poor taste.
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Post by dimlitcandle on Sept 12, 2016 9:11:02 GMT -6
I'm one of the few who thinks there will be an entirely new character, an NPC, that will be very Alucard-like. I would like to think they would throw the ball back to Double Fine and make a reference to their "Organist" character from the Brutal Legend series...but that's just a hope of mine. Wouldn't be too bad if any NPC resembled him. I mean, the Bloodstained characters already have vibes of past Castlevania characters. Also, Alucard is an Expy of several other characters from other series in a lot of ways, so the concept of the "half-vampire, hunter of the night, son of Dracula" is totally public domain.
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Post by Kitti_W on Sept 12, 2016 10:15:12 GMT -6
Yes, IGA can make a vampire and name him Alucard with a different design and personality. but the real question is, do we really need Alucard or Dracula ? Who is that guy in your avatar? Isn't he Alucard? (or Sephiroth? lol) Btw I get the point that we eventually shouldn't involve Alucard here. Should let the series stand on its own. =)
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Post by Maker on Sept 12, 2016 12:40:00 GMT -6
I've said this before on other forums and media. But screw it same thing here. Here's the way I see this idea. It is a good gesture on behalf of the OP but in the end it would do nothing for your feelings. It would eventually be, at least for some, an insult to their memories.
While yes it could technically be a name used. It is in no way the one we would be familiar with. I could understand that... but I just don't feel like it would fit. I mean Alucard from Hellsing wouldn't even fit in. The name carrieswith it a certain expectation and I'd like for bloodstained to avoid that.
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Post by Dengojin on Sept 12, 2016 17:21:11 GMT -6
Yes, IGA can make a vampire and name him Alucard with a different design and personality. but the real question is, do we really need Alucard or Dracula ? Who is that guy in your avatar? Isn't he Alucard? (or Sephiroth? lol) Btw I get the point that we eventually shouldn't involve Alucard here. Should let the series stand on its own. =) I am a fan of Alucard, yes.. I really like this character more than you could imagine. But I also want Bloodstained to stand on it's own feet and feature it's own characters, it doesn't really need either Alucard or Dracula. and yeah that is a chibi Alucard
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Post by Risada on Sept 13, 2016 12:56:29 GMT -6
Who is that guy in your avatar? Isn't he Alucard? (or Sephiroth? lol) Btw I get the point that we eventually shouldn't involve Alucard here. Should let the series stand on its own. =) I am a fan of Alucard, yes.. I really like this character more than you could imagine. But I also want Bloodstained to stand on it's own feet and feature it's own characters, it doesn't really need either Alucard or Dracula. and yeah that is a chibi Alucard I agree with this. Alucard is a great character, but now is the time for Miriam, Gebel and co. to shine and forge their own history.
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Post by XombieMike on Sept 13, 2016 15:42:19 GMT -6
As much as I love Alucard, it's best he isn't in Bloodstained.
If done properly, I'd like to see Bloodstained presented in a way that would work in the same world as Castlevania without ever saying it. Maybe little hints that something else is going on elsewhere that ties the universe of both together.
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Post by otoshigami on Sept 13, 2016 16:55:38 GMT -6
well it doesnt have to be alucard nor dracula. it could be a different anagram word play that relates to dracula like "Crud Ala or Lua Darc" for some example. that way Iga can get away with anything just by making it very UNIQUE name of his own. if he wants it in the sequel of bloodstained, it might be very interesting stuff.
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Post by Rigel on Nov 5, 2016 19:23:11 GMT -6
Alucard should be mentioned in an item description.
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Post by Sunraiser on Nov 13, 2016 12:21:40 GMT -6
As much as I would love another Castlevania game featuring Drac and Alucard back in the fray, I would rather them NOT be in Bloodstained at all. This game, while Igavania at it's core, is not supposed to be 'Castlevania'. It's going to be it's own entity, with it's own story and dynamic characters and villains, and we should embrace them as being familiar, but new and welcome additions to modern, but classically-inspired gaming. Including Drac and Adrian I feel would make Bloodstained fall short of that point completely.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Nov 14, 2016 12:49:49 GMT -6
can I be in Bloodstained as a public domain character?
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Post by Clear on Nov 14, 2016 13:24:11 GMT -6
If by some miracle Konami agrees to or offers to hand over the entire Castlevania IP to Iga, then I would be so happy to see Miriam (Belmont) in action, traversing Dracula's castle towards the end goal of defeating Dracula. By how things are now, like what Sunraiser mentions, I'd strongly prefer Bloodstained be as less Castlevania-esque as possible for Bloodstained's own good. My perspective is that there's a very thin line between making a Castlevania and making a Bloodstained, meaning that there are practically no gray areas to fudge around on and work with in order to obtain a high level of quality when it comes to an Iga-crafted game. Iga is going to play it straight, I can sense.
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Post by Astaroth on Nov 14, 2016 16:38:48 GMT -6
Yes he could should he? Nope
Any callbacks to castlevania at all should be kept to blink and youll miss it callbacks or previous iga works (not necessarily cv) injokes tucked into the background for observant fans to catch
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Post by Olrox on Nov 20, 2016 19:28:40 GMT -6
Yes he could should he? Nope Any callbacks to castlevania at all should be kept to blink and youll miss it callbacks or previous iga works (not necessarily cv) injokes tucked into the background for observant fans to catch Agree. Bloodstained is a brand new IP. It bases itself on Castlevania but it shouldn't attempt to be exactly Castlevania. Little small details thourghtout the castle for the devoted fans are the the way to go.
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Post by Kale on Nov 20, 2016 19:37:03 GMT -6
Agreed. But if it's done, I hope it wouldn't be like LoS2's cringe worthy delivery of "What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets."
I was a huge fan of the dialogue of the SotN games, and I loved Richter's conversation with Dracula, but my god... I nearly coughed up blood at the horrible scene in LoS2.
That said, if they can have an enemy yell Soul steal as one of his attacks, and have a scene where he constantly goes "I'm interested in this" that'd be hilarious and awesome. Just hopefully with better context.
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