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Post by JeffCross on Jul 18, 2016 5:37:53 GMT -6
I was wondering, how will Miriam change her clothes... Not armor or accessories, but actual costumes that change her appearance. I hope it's not just in the menu, like armor... I was looking at the concept art for her outfits and I liked the mirror she's in... so I was thinking if the option was in the menu it could bring up a mirror and she can change that way. Or she could have a mirror in her room (yes I am bringing up Miriram's room again lol) where she can change her outfits and looks. What do you guys think? Remember it has been confirmed here
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Post by Olrox on Jul 23, 2016 13:46:15 GMT -6
Well for her to be able to only change certain artifacts in her room then it would involve that said artifacts do NOT change core aspects of the gameplay, because it would be a hassle going back and forth to a room just to get an item needed to progress through the castle as the core of a metroidvania is adquiring items permanently to reach certain areas easier as you go along. If it meant that these artifacts are only cosmetic then it would be great to change it in a mirror of some kind just to change the default look. Otherwise if they do have something to offer like adding an extra attack or defensive mechanism for Miriam then I would prefer if I could change my look at any point for the sake of convenience and speedruns.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 23, 2016 13:50:06 GMT -6
Well for her to be able to only change certain artifacts in her room then it would involve that said artifacts do NOT change core aspects of the gameplay, because it would be a hassle going back and forth to a room just to get an item needed to progress through the castle as the core of a metroidvania is adquiring items permanently to reach certain areas easier as you go along. If it meant that these artifacts are only cosmetic then it would be great to change it in a mirror of some kind just to change the default look. Otherwise if they do have something to offer like adding an extra attack or defensive mechanism for Miriam then I would prefer if I could change my look at any point for the sake of convenience and speedruns. it is only clothes and looks... NOT armor or anything you can change in the pause menu. This thread just deals with just her looks.
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Post by Olrox on Jul 23, 2016 14:02:59 GMT -6
But looks and things you change in the menu goes hand in hand... Look at the demo, shoes changed miriam apperance AND had utility, frankly just by looking at the picture above I cannot consider those items not changing the gameplay at least one bit.
If there are purely aesthetic changes I think they are going to be very simple things like a special scarf/dress which you can change colors ala SOTN with the famous watermelon cape, but those designs above seems way to elaborated to be just fashion IMO.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 23, 2016 14:36:25 GMT -6
But looks and things you change in the menu goes hand in hand... Look at the demo, shoes changed miriam apperance AND had utility, frankly just by looking at the picture above I cannot consider those items not changing the gameplay at least one bit. If there are purely aesthetic changes I think they are going to be very simple things like a special scarf/dress which you can change colors ala SOTN with the famous watermelon cape, but those designs above seems way to elaborated to be just fashion IMO. All the other little changes like scarf, headbands and the boots (which are weapons so I don't really count those) are changed in the pause menu, yes. sorry but this is just customization I highly doubt there will be serious special effects from these changes. you can read the article/update here I know they are strange but they just change her looks, as far as they have mentioned.
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Post by Olrox on Jul 23, 2016 15:23:47 GMT -6
Huh, that's a shame. Each of these seemed promising to give Miriam something unique. Oh well, you can't have everything. Then I stand by what I said earlier, a mirror of some sort that transform miriam would be nice somewhere in the castle.
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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 23, 2016 21:13:46 GMT -6
I really have mixed feelings about the whole 'fashion' ordeal. I kinda wish that instead of equipment changing appearance, there would be 'skins' one could equip on Miriam, and those would change her appearance. Like a wardrobe or something that you kept all of your stuff in, and could select items from to equip. I feel if people really care about what she looks like that much, they're gunna sacrifice statistics and better stats for aesthetic satisfaction.
I dunno, the idea is still queer and vague to me. Hmm...
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 24, 2016 0:08:13 GMT -6
I really have mixed feelings about the whole 'fashion' ordeal. I kinda wish that instead of equipment changing appearance, there would be 'skins' one could equip on Miriam, and those would change her appearance. Like a wardrobe or something that you kept all of your stuff in, and could select items from to equip. I feel if people really care about what she looks like that much, they're gunna sacrifice statistics and better stats for aesthetic satisfaction. I dunno, the idea is still queer and vague to me. Hmm... that's what it is... the "customization" option will just change her looks, nothing else.
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Post by Kaius on Jul 27, 2016 3:03:36 GMT -6
I like to custom some things in a game, look and perks, room or abilities. Aesthetic is important so you actually like the character you play with. Also, if Miriam gets skins, Zantetsu and the mysterious 3rd character should too. I think otherwise, 95% of people will just play Miriam and the others will be left behind. Will it be a common or an individual room then ? I'm thinking more about an individual because Miriam should have a 'lady' room and I guess Zantestsu is probably the kind of guy having a simple room with a bed and something to carry his weapons and armors.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 27, 2016 8:03:18 GMT -6
I like to custom some things in a game, look and perks, room or abilities. Aesthetic is important so you actually like the character you play with. Also, if Miriam gets skins, Zantetsu and the mysterious 3rd character should too. I think otherwise, 95% of people will just play Miriam and the others will be left behind. Will it be a common or an individual room then ? I'm thinking more about an individual because Miriam should have a 'lady' room and I guess Zantestsu is probably the kind of guy having a simple room with a bed and something to carry his weapons and armors. If you look at the Miriam's Room thread, there were suggestions that Miriam could find different parts of her room through doors, keys or something else... and one of those rooms could be Zangetsu and Johannes. I am hoping that the two other characters are part of the story so they could be fleshed out like a Miriam's character... and if they are, they should be customizable too... hopfully.
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