Level Grinding in the Demo!

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 11, 2016 23:19:04 GMT -6

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Post by asterra on Jul 11, 2016 23:19:04 GMT -6

Jul 11, 2016 22:20:19 GMT -6 A Man in Flames said:

Jul 11, 2016 18:33:31 GMT -6 asterra said:

I personally hope that Iga chooses to let the game stack up, sort of like Diablo 3, Sacred 2, Dark Souls, etc. New Game+ will be harder but with correspondingly better drops ("+1" versions of what you found before) and a new level cap. And New Game++ continues the pattern, a half dozen times or so.

In the very least, I want to see elements such as these explored upon in the Rogue dungeon mode. Just imagine how many hours we could sink into the Rogue dungeon mode if there's an insane level cap, or benefits to be gained by restarting at Level 1 after hitting 99 (like better level 1 stats for example) and higher difficulty tiers to tackle. Couple this with different playable characters, online co-op, and holy hell: Bloodstained could make Harmony of Despair blush.

Heh. Well, a couple of thoughts here. First, it's probably obvious that Iga would not want to stay married to Bloodstained forever. Poor Yacht Club Games are stuck with their well-liked yet probably not especially profitable Shovel Knight for literally years after its release, MN9 was delayed forever for the same reason (and needs another year of work, though it probably won't get it), and Bloodstained has no shortage of goals that need to eventually be met, during which time important dev man-hours can't be spent on the next venture. Realistically, nothing even half as interesting or addictive as Harmony of Despair will come of the multiplayer, not because the devs would disagree about how awesome it would be, but for the reasons I've outlined. But, yes, the concepts you propose would be pretty great.

On the other hand, although I recognize the appeal of Roguelike dungeons, I favor the legitimacy of a handcrafted experience by far, and I would definitely hope that any expansive longevity-oriented mechanics that may hypothetically be implemented would be applicable to the true game first and the Roguelike experience only if time allowed.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 14, 2016 10:04:36 GMT -6 LeoLeWolferoux likes this

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Post by A Man in Flames on Jul 14, 2016 10:04:36 GMT -6

Jul 13, 2016 22:35:56 GMT -6 LeoLeWolferoux said:

Hell, why don't I try and see how far that I get? Maybe I can get to lv. 99

eDiT: Guess maybe not. Got to lv. 27 aaaannndddd....then my game crashed sooo... lol

Demoralizing doesn't even begin to describe...

Ain't that a roll of sucked ass. Sorry to hear that... And this is why I'm not keen on attempting to grind to 99 in a single sitting.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 14, 2016 13:58:32 GMT -6

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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 14, 2016 13:58:32 GMT -6

Jul 14, 2016 10:04:36 GMT -6 A Man in Flames said:

Jul 13, 2016 22:35:56 GMT -6 LeoLeWolferoux said:

Hell, why don't I try and see how far that I get? Maybe I can get to lv. 99 :p

eDiT: Guess maybe not. Got to lv. 27 aaaannndddd....then my game crashed sooo... lol

Demoralizing doesn't even begin to describe...

Ain't that a roll of sucked ass. Sorry to hear that... And this is why I'm not keen on attempting to grind to 99 in a single sitting.

Yeah. I think that would truly be the only issue with level grinding in the demo. I don't actually think it would take as long as some people believe cause I mean after around level 10-12 you can kill Vepar without having to wait for your MP to recharge, and higher levels make it so you can finish Vepar in much shorter work. (AKA Amys cast)

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Post by A Man in Flames on Jul 14, 2016 15:14:50 GMT -6

Indeed, despite requiring more EXP, your EXP rate will also keep going up due to killing Vepar quicker and with less restocking on MP. As I mentioned in the OP, I got to 20 in about 40 minutes, which of course includes time setting up for it. I'm interested in the EXP curve, see where it goes. Typically, you end with around 1-5 million EXP at level 99 in past IGA games. Actually, in SotN: you land at 999,999 EXP since they did not program the EXP counter to go beyond 999,999.

Sooner or later, I'll go back to this and see how far I can take it, I am interested in making a big push-- if not going all the way up to the theoretical 99.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 14, 2016 15:51:43 GMT -6

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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 14, 2016 15:51:43 GMT -6

Jul 14, 2016 15:14:50 GMT -6 A Man in Flames said:

Indeed, despite requiring more EXP, your EXP rate will also keep going up due to killing Vepar quicker and with less restocking on MP. As I mentioned in the OP, I got to 20 in about 40 minutes, which of course includes time setting up for it. I'm interested in the EXP curve, see where it goes. Typically, you end with around 1-5 million EXP at level 99 in past IGA games. Actually, in SotN: you land at 999,999 EXP since they did not program the EXP counter to go beyond 999,999.

Sooner or later, I'll go back to this and see how far I can take it, I am interested in making a big push-- if not going all the way up to the theoretical 99.

Yeah tonight I plan to restart my computer and try it again. I think all the background items being up might have had something to do with it; I've never had issues with my PC crashing before.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 14, 2016 16:22:24 GMT -6

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Post by A Man in Flames on Jul 14, 2016 16:22:24 GMT -6

For what it's worth, and take this merely as an anecdotal citation, I've only had Bloodstained crash on me once with the dreaded Fatal Error, once and once only. That was back when I first installed and ran the demo for the very first time and this is an acknowledged bug. That said, and contrary to our concern and fears, the likelihood of a crash is probably low enough that a marathon session is not entirely out of question.

When I do get around to revisiting this grind, I plan to take screen caps after each level up once I reach the 30s, just in case.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 14, 2016 22:06:32 GMT -6

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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 14, 2016 22:06:32 GMT -6

Jul 14, 2016 16:22:24 GMT -6 A Man in Flames said:

For what it's worth, and take this merely as an anecdotal citation, I've only had Bloodstained crash on me once with the dreaded Fatal Error, once and once only. That was back when I first installed and ran the demo for the very first time and this is an acknowledged bug. That said, and contrary to our concern and fears, the likelihood of a crash is probably low enough that a marathon session is not entirely out of question.

When I do get around to revisiting this grind, I plan to take screen caps after each level up once I reach the 30s, just in case.

I'm gunna try for 40, and then I'll jot down every level stats. No equips, right? Not a problem.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 14, 2016 22:49:18 GMT -6

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Post by A Man in Flames on Jul 14, 2016 22:49:18 GMT -6

Was working towards 40 myself when after nearly 3 hours of going at it: Fatal Error. FML. Here's my result:

SPOILER: Click to show

Glad I decided to screen cap every level starting at 30. The salt in the wound is that I was only one more Vepar kill away from 36 too...

NOTE: I have the Buer shard equipped so that's +2 to CON. So base stats are 33/30/38/36/15 (STR/CON/INT/MND/LCK)

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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 15, 2016 3:50:48 GMT -6

Here are Miriam's parameter LV's 30-40.

Level	HP	MP	ATK	STR	INT	LCK	DEF	CON	MND
30	468	310	26	29	34	14	13	27	32
31	480	318	27	30	35	14	13	27	32
32	492	326	28	31	36	15	14	28	33
33	504	334	28	31	37	15	14	29	34
34	516	342	29	32	37	15	14	29	35
35	528	350	29	33	38	15	15	30	36
36	540	358	30	34	39	16	15	31	36
37	552	366	30	34	40	16	15	31	37
38	564	374	31	35	41	16	16	32	38
39	576	382	32	36	42	16	16	33	39
40	588	390	32	37	43	17	17	34	40

*Yawn* Need...sleep...will continue tomorrow...if game no crash. -.-zZZZ

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 15, 2016 5:39:52 GMT -6

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Post by Galamoth on Jul 15, 2016 5:39:52 GMT -6

Jul 10, 2016 20:50:20 GMT -6 crocodile said:

Was anyone, anywhere online insane enough to actually hit lvl 99 to confirm Viftech 's math? I'm just curious if anyone was ~~insane~~ dedicated enough to do it. Or at least if anyone went above lvl 32 which seems to be the highest level reached so far.

I'm personally still a bit curious about whether the HP & MP gains will stay the same for all Levels.

If I recall correctly, in Dawn of Sorrow, you'd gain +12 HP & +8 MP per Level up to Level 50. After that point, starting at Level 51, it's decreased to +8 HP & +6 MP per Level.
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Of course, 1296 HP & 862 MP at Level 99 is only if it's consistently +12 HP & +8 MP per Level.

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 15, 2016 8:01:12 GMT -6 A Man in Flames, Torabi, and 1 more like this

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Post by Viftech on Jul 15, 2016 8:01:12 GMT -6

I decided it was time I uploaded my notes on the stat increases. I could finally finish the INT table thanks to LeoLeWolferoux those stats you found made it so I finally could find the pattern to INT.

IGA will probably make some changes to the stats in the final release of the game.

Edit: I will update the stat table and my comment as more information is uncovered. Thanks again to LeoLeWolferoux who is working hard at uncovering the level stats and confirming the predicted stats

Final edit: I finally understood why I couldn't find the pattern to CON before, and I feel really stupid for not seeing it before. The pattern changed after level 15, so I after I started comparing everything after that point it all matched up. CON was the only stat that this happened to so I just didn't realize it. Now I just need to wait and see if the leveling can go past level 99.

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I didn't upload this before because when I posted my last stat table I hadn't figured out how to copy the XL table I made into a post, so I manually typed it in and didn't want to type everything from level 1 to 99. Please don't judge me for my laziness.

LEVEL	ATK	STR	INT	LCK	DEF	CON	MND	HP	MP
1	10	7	9	7	3	6	8	120	78
2	11	8	10	7	3	7	9	132	86
3	11	9	11	7	4	8	10	144	94
4	12	10	12	8	4	8	11	156	102
5	12	10	13	8	4	9	12	168	110
6	13	11	14	8	5	10	12	180	118
7	14	12	14	8	5	11	13	192	126
8	14	13	15	9	5	11	14	204	134
9	14	13	16	9	6	12	15	216	142
10	15	14	17	9	6	13	16	228	150
11	16	15	18	9	6	13	16	240	158
12	17	16	19	10	7	14	17	252	166
13	17	16	20	10	7	15	18	264	174
14	17	17	20	10	7	15	19	276	182
15	18	18	21	10	8	16	20	288	190
16	19	19	22	11	8	17	20	300	198
17	19	19	23	11	8	17	21	312	206
18	20	20	24	11	9	18	22	324	214
19	20	21	25	11	9	19	23	336	222
20	21	22	26	12	10	20	24	348	230
21	21	22	26	12	10	20	24	360	238
22	22	23	27	12	10	21	25	372	246
23	23	24	28	12	11	22	26	384	254
24	23	25	29	13	11	22	27	396	262
25	23	25	30	13	11	23	28	408	270
26	24	26	31	13	12	24	28	420	278
27	25	27	31	13	12	24	29	432	286
28	26	28	32	14	12	25	30	444	294
29	26	28	33	14	13	26	31	456	302
30	26	29	34	14	13	27	32	468	310
31	27	30	35	14	13	27	32	480	318
32	28	31	36	15	14	28	33	492	326
33	28	31	37	15	14	29	34	504	334
34	29	32	37	15	14	29	35	516	342
35	29	33	38	15	15	30	36	528	350
36	30	34	39	16	15	31	36	540	358
37	30	34	40	16	16	31	37	552	366
38	31	35	41	16	16	32	38	564	374
39	32	36	42	16	16	33	39	576	382
40	32	37	43	17	17	34	40	588	390
41	32	37	43	17	17	34	40	600	398
42	33	38	44	17	17	35	41	612	406
43	34	39	45	17	18	36	42	624	414
44	35	40	46	18	18	36	43	636	422
45	35	40	47	18	18	37	44	648	430
46	35	41	48	18	19	38	44	660	438
47	36	42	49	18	19	38	45	672	446
48	37	43	49	19	19	39	46	684	454
49	37	43	50	19	20	40	47	696	462
50	38	44	51	19	20	41	48	708	470
51	38	45	52	19	20	41	48	720	478
52	39	46	53	20	21	42	49	732	486
53	39	46	54	20	21	43	50	744	494
54	40	47	54	20	22	43	51	756	502
55	41	48	55	20	22	44	52	768	510
56	41	49	56	21	22	45	52	780	518
57	41	49	57	21	23	45	53	792	526
58	42	50	58	21	23	46	54	804	534
59	43	51	59	21	23	47	55	816	542
60	44	52	60	22	24	48	56	828	550
61	44	52	60	22	24	48	56	840	558
62	44	53	61	22	24	49	57	852	566
63	45	54	62	22	25	50	58	864	574
64	46	55	63	23	25	50	59	876	582
65	46	55	64	23	25	51	60	888	590
66	47	56	65	23	26	52	60	900	598
67	47	57	66	23	26	52	61	912	606
68	48	58	66	24	26	53	62	924	614
69	48	58	67	24	27	54	63	936	622
70	49	59	68	24	27	55	64	948	630
71	50	60	69	24	28	55	64	960	638
72	50	61	70	25	28	56	65	972	646
73	50	61	71	25	28	57	66	984	654
74	51	62	72	25	29	57	67	996	662
75	52	63	72	25	29	58	68	1008	670
76	53	64	73	26	29	59	68	1020	678
77	53	64	74	26	30	59	69	1032	686
78	53	65	75	26	30	60	70	1044	694
79	54	66	76	26	30	61	71	1056	702
80	55	67	77	27	31	62	72	1068	710
81	55	67	77	27	31	62	72	1080	718
82	56	68	78	27	31	63	73	1092	726
83	56	69	79	27	32	64	74	1104	734
84	57	70	80	28	32	64	75	1116	742
85	57	70	81	28	32	65	76	1128	750
86	58	71	82	28	33	66	76	1140	758
87	59	72	83	28	33	66	77	1152	766
88	59	73	83	29	33	67	78	1164	774
89	59	73	84	29	34	68	79	1176	782
90	60	74	85	29	34	69	80	1188	790
91	61	75	86	29	34	69	80	1200	798
92	62	76	87	30	35	70	81	1212	806
93	62	76	88	30	35	71	82	1224	814
94	62	77	89	30	35	71	83	1236	822
95	63	78	89	30	36	72	84	1248	830
96	64	79	90	31	36	73	84	1260	838
97	64	79	91	31	36	73	85	1272	846
98	65	80	92	31	37	74	86	1284	854
99	65	81	93	31	37	75	87	1296	862

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Level Grinding in the Demo! Jul 15, 2016 13:02:53 GMT -6

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Post by A Man in Flames on Jul 15, 2016 13:02:53 GMT -6

Congrats, LeoLeWolferoux for hitting Level 40. Will be interesting to hear back from you if you were able to keep the gravy train running upon leaving the game idle in an attempt to return to where you left off!

Viftech, that's a swank chart you put together there, even in my favorite colors! Thanks for compiling that for us!

Some loose observations regarding the EXP curve: it's easy to see the EXP curve trajectory will see us go well past 1 million total EXP at Level 99. Using Level 40 as a base of estimation, we can very roughly estimate using these figures the following:

- Approximately 238,600 current total
- 18,600 to next level (leaving room for 59 more levels of growth)
- 18,600 x 59 = 1,097,400 + 238,600 = 1,336,000 total EXP @ Level 99 if every level from 40 onwards retained the same TNL requirements.

Of course the above are very linear calculations not accounting for the obvious increase in TNL EXP. I'm wondering if there is a formula for how much more EXP is needed to the next level over the last, or if it's an arbitrated curve.

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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 15, 2016 17:16:39 GMT -6

Ok. Miriam's Parameter LV's 40-50 are these:

Level	HP	MP	ATK	STR	INT	LCK	DEF	CON	MND
40	588	390	32	37	43	17	17	34	40
41	600	398	32	37	43	17	17	34	40
42	612	406	33	38	44	17	17	35	41
43	624	414	34	39	45	17	18	36	42
44	636	422	35	40	46	18	18	36	43
45	648	430	35	40	47	18	18	37	44
46	660	438	35	41	48	18	19	38	44
47	672	446	36	42	48	18	19	38	45
48	684	454	37	43	49	19	19	39	46
49	696	462	37	43	50	19	20	40	47
50	708	470	38	44	51	19	20	41	48

Also, some things to note: (RANDOM FUN FACTS!)

-At LV 36, it costs 11 AMYS to kill, 10 AMYS at LV 39, and 9 AMYS to kill Vepar at LV 45

-Dullahammer has exactly 40 HP

-The screen has occasionally flashed several different colors for me. (Red, white, green, and even the same hue of blue as Miriam's mana bar)

-If jumping towards the left ledge in the room before Vepar, (the one that leads outside to where Dullahammer resides) occasionally you'll land on an 'invisible' platform that you can walk on suspended in air, and when jumping on it, makes no sound even as Miriam's feet touch the ground...

-The music stopped playing for me around LV 35. This really sucks because before I at least had the music to keep me from going insane whilst doing this, but now all I hear is the storm outside...

-Sometimes, on very rare occasion, if you walk into Vepar's area, even if you had left the room and came back, you'll very rarely hear Vepar's cry. (The one when he dies) This really sucked because I had my earbuds in with the volume turned waaay up so I could hear when the AMYS struck Vepar, which then gave me the pleasure of having Vepar damn near eviscerate my eardrums. B-(

So yeah. So far so good. Though it's become DREADFULLY boring since at higher levels it takes more LV'ing to make up the damage of one AMY, thus reducing the amount you need to kill Vepar. *Sigh*

Last Edit: Jul 15, 2016 21:57:12 GMT -6 by LeoLeWolferoux

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Jul 15, 2016 18:44:36 GMT -6 A Man in Flames said:

^^^

Simply Legendary! If your laptop can keep it up for a few days, and your sanity permitting, perhaps you may be the Champion we need to hit Level 99!

Ahaha. yes. I think sanity permitting is the biggest piece here. I've got an HP Spectre X360, so I've got a pretty nice laptop. We'll see how it goes, it could still crash at any given moment, so I'm not gunna be like "PREPARE FOR LV 99, SCRUBLORD!" ahaha

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Jul 15, 2016 19:05:51 GMT -6 LeoLeWolferoux said:

Jul 15, 2016 18:44:36 GMT -6 A Man in Flames said:

^^^

Simply Legendary! If your laptop can keep it up for a few days, and your sanity permitting, perhaps you may be the Champion we need to hit Level 99!

Ahaha. yes. I think sanity permitting is the biggest piece here. I've got an HP Spectre X360, so I've got a pretty nice laptop. We'll see how it goes, it could still crash at any given moment, so I'm not gunna be like "PREPARE FOR LV 99, SCRUBLORD!" ahaha

That laptop will answer to me if it fails on you... or rather, all of us. We're rooting for you!

Don't let us down HP Spectre X360. Or else...

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