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Post by miketendo on Jun 23, 2016 7:59:21 GMT -6
I'd like to think Castlevania was always progressive enough to have male AND female heroes and villains. I'm wondering if we'll see any of that in any part of Bloodstained? Has anyone heard anything about this?
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Post by docteur on Jun 23, 2016 11:28:31 GMT -6
I don't really get the need to add a female villain, especially in the name of progress..?
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 23, 2016 11:36:50 GMT -6
Heh, Miketendo you have no need to worry. Female villans are sure to be in there. The demons IGA is basing his monsters on include female forms. I don't want to spoil anything, but even in a previous update they showed art for a female boss. As far as how much these characters have personality, we don't know.
Docteur, women can be villans too. Let's not go very deep into polarizing gender politics too much here though. I see enough of that on Facebook. Please everyone be cool.
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Post by Astaroth on Jun 23, 2016 11:58:55 GMT -6
well, theres at least 2 bosses in the game (one has concept art that has been revealed in updates, the others in the demo) so far that look pretty feminine to me as for main hero and villain, so far miriams the main protagonist and gebel is believed to be the main antagonist and theres 2 extra playable characters slated with 3 known possibilities for them, and a whole slew of enemies we havent seen yet honestly though id rather the enemies and characters be interesting and have a sort of personality to their movements and actions and dialogue than have them go through a checklist of "must have x number of things with x traits to be progressive enough" which actually serves to hinder the devs ability because it shackles them to specific traits that are considered 'progressive' (not fixing the problem, just shifting it to the side a bit) cool that youre here with us, think i found your channel and it looks interesting ^_^
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Post by crocodile on Jun 23, 2016 13:23:14 GMT -6
Aside from Elizabeth Bartley in Bloodlines (who gets usurped by Dracula in the end - though I guess that's true in almost every game) I can' think of any female that had a headline role as "the villain" in a Castlevania game. Carmilla is just the second in command to Dracula, "the Succubus" doesn't even have a name (which should tell you how far up the totem pole she is), the Lecarde Sisters are basically under Brauner's spell, etc. Since I'm 99% convinced Gebel is not the true villain of this game, I'd be super down for female villain <3 well, theres at least 2 bosses in the game (one has concept art that has been revealed in updates, the others in the demo) so far that look pretty feminine to me as for main hero and villain, so far miriams the main protagonist and gebel is believed to be the main antagonist and theres 2 extra playable characters slated with 3 known possibilities for them, and a whole slew of enemies we havent seen yet honestly though id rather the enemies and characters be interesting and have a sort of personality to their movements and actions and dialogue than have them go through a checklist of "must have x number of things with x traits to be progressive enough" which actually serves to hinder the devs ability because it shackles them to specific traits that are considered 'progressive' (not fixing the problem, just shifting it to the side a bit) cool that youre here with us, think i found your channel and it looks interesting ^_^ This is a false dichotomy. Nobody wants shitty characters but there is no reason or realistic fear that a character designed because of a desire for progressiveness has to be shitty or hard to incorporate or anything. You might not get what you want if you ask for something, assuming what you're asking for is reasonable or sensible, but you 100% won't get it if you don't ask. That's all this ever is. Sometimes people are dumb or unrespectful and sometimes what they are saying or asking for can be dumb - those people deserved to be called out. However at the end of the day expressing a demand for better representation isn't an inherent usurpation of artistic creativity or independence. It's just saying "hey I'm here, I like your work and I think it would be super cool if X happened and it might me like your work even better. Just think about it <3"
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Post by Astaroth on Jun 23, 2016 13:51:39 GMT -6
true, and i tried to answer his question first before adding my opinion on the broad subject but i probably couldve seperated them better, i can see there being a decent representation of whichever, especially considering many demons are vague on what gender they actually are if any (or all) >P
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Post by miketendo on Jun 23, 2016 17:42:05 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to include women for the sake of inclusion. But as a franchise that's had female heroes and villains, I always thought it'd be cool if Miriam would fight against a female antagonist as well...not necessarily the main baddie but maybe a miniboss. I'm sure Iga's got it all worked out though, as XombieMike mentioned.
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Post by miketendo on Jun 23, 2016 17:43:44 GMT -6
cool that youre here with us, think i found your channel and it looks interesting ^_^ Thanks! I think Castlevania fans especially will enjoy what I post.
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