Update: 35 - IGA's Got A Brand New Background (New Shaders!)

Agree with this, it looks nice but I like the bold black outlines.

Because, in the end, nothing is stronger than Goku and Vegeta except Goku and Vegeta themselves, after the fusion, if you get my point.
Not my greatest metaphor...

Its cool, i actually like the zoomed out look for a couple reasons, so im wondering if itd be possible to go the CVHD route and put in selectable camera distances, it would allow players to take in more of the surrounding area to enjoy the scenery or plan their route through the area, or they could zoom in closer if they want to look at individual pieces or give their run more of a personal or claustrophobic feel (lol, could even use that closeup camera sort of like a field of view, have the characters back closer to the edge of the screen and enemies can sneak up on you >3)

But other than the glowy bluish haze that takes over char 3 in the far view its a really nice camera setup

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Gonna be hard to choose man.. But I'm going against the grain here. I choose background 1, character 3. I initially was impressed with background 3, but then I compared the staircase on the left and came to the conclusion that background 1 meshes better with character 3. This is, just like, my opinion yo. ʕ•ﻌ•ʔ

Indeed. I hate when people do that. Added your summary to the top, also, I won. =)

That's actually a pretty big deal and may change how I end up voting. Thanks for the heads up. I really wish there was a screenshot at the intended normal gameplay zoom though. Just so I didn't have to "imagine" it

We should take a previous IGAVANIA and try to crop the newer picture to fit the sense of scale of the example we use. Maybe that'll be a better sense of it?

Yeah, I didn't vote in this poll or send feedback to Inticreates yet for that same reason (and I didn't send feedback to Inticreates the last time around until after a couple of days). I want to take some time to think about what I have to say and not knee-jerk anything.


Sure I agree. I'm just saying that if the most common viewpoint of the game isn't being expressed in the shots we have now, that can make it trickier to choose which shader I think works the best during normal gameplay.


That might work? Though the differences in perspective might make that tricky and I don't know if the camera in Bloodstained will at all angle itself a bit differently if it zooms in based on the locale we got.

In background 1, the light source is coming from the right side of the image. In background 3, the light source is coming from the left side of the image. I wish they hadn’t done it this way, because with this particular image, at this particular angle, the lighting coming from the right looks more natural. That is to say, it makes it look more like the torches are lighting the room than like the lighting is coming from somewhere “off-screen.” You can tell this isn’t actually the case though, by how much brighter the blood fountain on the right is in background 1 than in background 3, when there aren't any torches near it.

There’s a lot I like about both backgrounds, but I think I like bg3 more because the colors look more natural, the background detail comes out more, and most importantly, Miriam stands out much, much more from the background then she does on bg1.

For the character shaders, I agree with a lot of what people have been saying. character 3 looks better close up and character 1 looks better from further away. Choosing between the two is far more difficult for me than choosing between the backgrounds. The things I like about each I really, really like, but are completely sacrificed in the other.

Character 3 is way more of a hand-drawn animation look, which honestly I don’t like as much as the fully 3D figure look of character 1. However, the shading on character 3 is dramatically better than on character 1. All the shadows, contrast, and color changes just are so much more powerful and appealing. However, the detail on the clothing, the way the light reflects across the leather items, and the overall more realistic look of the character seems to fit with the background art so much better and just looks all round better in general. What I would really, REALLY like is a mix between the two styles for the character – something that makes better use of more powerful shadings contrasts but still manages to keep the clothing detail and 3D look. I’m not sure I can vote, because I’m not sure I can actually pick between the two different characters. They’re just both too amazing!

I think overall though I'm leaning toward character 3, because even if it's too much of an animated look and leaves off the details I want so badly to be there, I feel it's much more the direction the look of the game should go and I feel I can trust them to keep tweaking the look until it's just right.