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Post by H on Aug 9, 2015 12:08:47 GMT -6
I don't dislike the bare-chest design. I was just suggesting an alternate costume to play as. Although I suppose that discussion would be better off in the costumes thread.
How do you all see this character playing out like? A faster flashy nimble character or a more practical tank-like character? Or maybe something else entirely?
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Post by Togposh on Aug 9, 2015 13:11:27 GMT -6
My guess is he will be helping miriam to stop grebel from summoning demons.
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Post by Leon on Aug 9, 2015 13:16:49 GMT -6
"¡Holà Miriam and everyone, now say with me: "Gebel, stop summoning demons! Gebel, stop summoning demons! Gebel, stop summoning demons!"" - somehow is the first thing that came to mind. I blame the time spent with my niece two days ago.
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Post by Astaroth on Aug 9, 2015 16:40:12 GMT -6
H i was actually talking to Dan Gs opinion of the bare chest being dumb, in this instance i disagreed but in a more fanservicy character like armstrong who goes through shirts like a fish drinks water for often no apparent reason (battle and plot i totally understand and often times hes hilariously awesome, but its still fanservice >P) id be more inclined to agree, i actually do love the idea of alternate costumes being him in full armor or with his coat all the way on
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 9, 2015 16:59:30 GMT -6
He does look pretty badass, albeit very similar to Gabriel from Lords of Shadow, as some have pointed out. Maybe it's sportsmanlike of IGA, though--giving a shoutout to the LoS games as well as his own igavanias
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Post by Ixbran on Aug 9, 2015 17:04:24 GMT -6
Nobody bats an eye when Miriam is revealed with half her chest, thighs, and back is exposed. But the second a male character is shown with his chest exposed due to an open or torn shirt, people start coming up with new designs that cover up his skin because 'it doesn't make sense for him to be exposed'. Thats just sad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 17:39:14 GMT -6
Nobody bats an eye when Miriam is revealed with half her chest exposed, thighs, and back exposed. But the second a male character is shown with his chest exposed due to an open or torn shirt, people start coming up with new designs that cover up his skin because ' it doesn't make sense for him to be exposed'. Thats just sad. The upper part of her attire is extremely close to the 18th century style. The lower part is less so, but a longer dress isn't an option when battling, so the only alternative would be pants. However, you have to take into consideration that the exposed skin is there to show the progress of the curse, a very integral part of the story here, so pants are completely out of the question. Meanwhile, G. has an open shirt, which is also there to show the curse. So, considering that their attires do makes sense (from a design perspective) and that no one complained about G. having an open shirt, you're being baselessly judgmental by calling this situation "sad".
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Post by Astaroth on Aug 9, 2015 19:23:20 GMT -6
Wait gebel has no shirt on? *drools (jk, knew that wasnt a shirt, he is pretty sexy though) >P
Also i just noticed, miriams pure outfit doesnt show off nearly as much skin, half life 3 confirm!...
Seriously, i like skin, i like awesome clothing, guys and girls, i dont care if the ratio of skin/clothes is even or not, if DH:ESX was all pretty boy gleamy chest for no apparent reason, thats fanservice, not wrong, dumb maybe, but it is fanservice, same as if miriams main outfit was a teeny bikini for no apparent reason (heres to miriam in a bikini and DH:ESX in a loincloth as alts >3>/). But an alt costume where hes in full armor of +5 badassedry would be cool, ill only bitch if we lose his main outft of him in all his open coat, scarred chest baring epicness ^_^
Also, hands up if you knew old axe armor from PoR was a girl ^_^/
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Post by H on Aug 9, 2015 21:32:05 GMT -6
I meant no disrespect or offense by my suggestions. I just saw the armour/prosthetic and thought it'd be nice to see a "full" version of that that'd still fit the character's style. If Gebel or Miriam had been wearing interesting pieces of armour, I might have suggested the same thing, but they have their own unique outfits that fit them and I hadn't put much thought into expanding on that. I am very into militaristic history so seeing where they take their armour/weapon designs from is exciting for me (although I was suggesting instead of observing in this case). I'm all for badass stylish clothing, and don't really mind the default character's design so much. I just thought it'd just be nice to have the option to choose and maybe give Iga's team ideas for alternate outfits in the future. Let's try to keep it positive from this post on, and apologies for any negative atmosphere I have caused.
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Post by ghaleon on Aug 10, 2015 0:02:31 GMT -6
If you really were harmlessly joking without any condescension towards anyone, I apologize. I don't know you and I was expecting the worst which I shouldn't have done. But since you said you aren't sure what I'm getting upset/disappointed about... it's that I've seen people try to shame or bully innocent opinions others have, inserting their 'social justice' where it doesn't belong. I was waiting for it to happen, and it did: Nobody bats an eye when Miriam is revealed with half her chest, thighs, and back is exposed. But the second a male character is shown with his chest exposed due to an open or torn shirt, people start coming up with new designs that cover up his skin because ' it doesn't make sense for him to be exposed'. Thats just sad. Actually, ONE GUY in this thread mentioned wanting armor or whatnot in this thread (that being H), and there were 3 people who directly disagreed with him (albeit respectfully, unlike your post here). How DARE he want a traditional design! He didn't even 'bat an eye' per say, he just said he likes armor designs, how dare he. And by the way, there was an older thread talking about outfits and designs, and significantly more than one person in it mentioned wanting outfits that were likely less revealing, in addition, multiple people (including the OP made obvious by their avatar) praise Miriam's less revealing pure outfit. Furthermore, there was a chap who mentioned wnating to see Miriam in actual plate armor, it may have even been H there too! I can't recall though. I'm sad that this kind of baseless thought-shaming exists outside of the likes of polygon.
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Post by Ixbran on Aug 10, 2015 0:43:31 GMT -6
@ghaleon: Yeah, I apologize, I infidelity jumped the shark with that. It just ... really pushes my buttons how people seem so ' used' to scantly clad females in fictional media that no one cares, but when a male character gets a design similar to something like that people suddenly get up in arms about covering them up, and how ' real men' shouldn't expose them selves in a fight because it 'isnt realistic'. When I saw H's post It irritated me because I thought he was simply whining about the new guys design and using the " oh I wish he were fully covered so I can imagine I am him" as a cover up for his complaint. It came off as " I need an excuse to cover him up ... oh I KNOW!" reason. @H: I am sorry for misjudging your post, and jumping to the worst possible reasoning's behind your statement. It was immature and wrong of me to do so. I guess another reason I was so quick to jump is that it felt like he was trying to take away the only male eye-candy this game has ( for me anyway, Joannas and Gebel are too 'pretty' for my taste's. I like my men big and burly) so it was ... " Please don't take away my hot guy! You guys have Miriam please let me have this!" just manifesting as rage. Again, not my most mature moment.
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Post by ghaleon on Aug 10, 2015 1:00:04 GMT -6
Miriam is cute but I don't think she was really designed with eye-candy as the first thing in mind. Not even the 2nd thing. But yes, taking away this new character would be silly, I support not taking him away (even though I personally have no attachments).
Thank you for not being hostile despite me being pretty confrontational, *salutes*. I was because I believe that nobody should ever shame anyone for thinking or liking certain things. Even the common/mainstream things that so many people bash because it's NOT politically incorrect to do so. I confronted you not because I think you are evil or whatever personally, but I think these kind of trend grows because people ignore it until too late.
Of course, if this game was moddable, you can make him have even LESS clothes maybe! Or more muscles... or something, whatever you like! =P
edit: Why does it say you tagged me instead of replied to me? I was kind of expected trouble, but if tag means report button, that really shouldn't be revealed to the person being reported. If you reported me though I wont hold it against you so no worries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 2:08:18 GMT -6
edit: Why does it say you tagged me instead of replied to me? It happens when people use "@" before typing out someone's username. It also makes the said username red and turns it into a profile link. Alternatively, you can use this function via the "Insert User Link" button.
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Post by Galamoth on Aug 10, 2015 7:21:56 GMT -6
Hello there, Belmont Samurai "Steve"! Steve Belmont, Vampire-Hunting Samurai. (I'm going to keep calling him that until his name is officially revealed.)
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Post by zero on Aug 10, 2015 7:52:07 GMT -6
Dude looks sweet, now I'm torn on who I want to play as.
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Post by Astaroth on Aug 10, 2015 9:25:18 GMT -6
actually ghaleon i think part of it too was a misunderstanding of who i was disagreeing with, i actually liked Hs post about the armor as an alt costume, but i disagreed with a guest poster further up because of something specific they said and how i thought it didnt apply in this case and i think my wording got kinda mixed up, no worries H youre cool ^_^
and yeah ixbran, sometimes it irks me too ^_^
also why when i @h someone it doesnt tag them?
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Aug 10, 2015 9:38:31 GMT -6
I was said chap that brought up the plate thing.
All of the designs for the game have been tasteful and actually not all that uncalled for given the time/place it occurs. Castlevania has always been like that, with maybe the exception of Judgment if we're counting that...
I think Red Sword Guy fits a vacant spot with his design. The game needed more of a man's man; not that I personally play those characters usually, but they're top choices for a lot of people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 10:53:56 GMT -6
also why when i @h someone it doesnt tag them? You need to either enter the username or display name, but you have to enter them correctly. The username is visible either by hovering over someones display name or via their profile page. To tag H, for example, you need to enter @ and either "H" (not lowercase) or "han" (their username).
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Post by Leon on Aug 10, 2015 11:00:06 GMT -6
Mind you, that's only if you're using the button. When using the button (found in the "Reply" page), you can type either the display name or username (using H as an example, "H" is the display name and "Han" is the username) and it will show you a list. If you're typing the @[name] directly in the field and not using the button then you must use the username, as the display name won't work.
I hope this was clear enough for an explanation.
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Post by Astaroth on Aug 10, 2015 11:05:32 GMT -6
ohhhh, hang on (summons H) ok, that works now
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