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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 6, 2019 18:15:44 GMT -6
THAT'S IT! WE'LL USE DONUTS TO CENSOR THE GAME. GENIUS!!!
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 6, 2019 18:17:45 GMT -6
Flying, fat babies with weapons just got more disturbing. That's honestly an awesome idea for a creepy-horror game enemy.
On topic, it's a shame nudity is still a taboo in videogames in the west, given how live action series have full blown nudity and sex scenes, and somehow things are getting worse for japanese games because of some policies recently adopted by Sony PlayStation (which is now an american controlled division, since 2017) and their platform. Regardless, I hope IGA and his team of artists haven't felt the need to tone down nudity to uphold some "west standards" that a group of said "journalists" are trying to force down our throats. This really is a tiresome subject.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK PLEASE!!!
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 6, 2019 18:41:39 GMT -6
Honestly I kind of feel the same way as Freddythemonkey, yeah it may sound perverted to say this but, I always envisioned the most romantically intimate scene one could get is two lovers being physically close to each other while nude in the middle of the night(probably outdoors), no sex or raunchiness what so ever, maybe a peck or a hand in a specific place but nothing beyond that really. If the nudity isn't extreme and simply the character not having clothes, why would people act like developers just promoted 9/11 or something, as long as the rating warns people it's fine I feel. Also agree with Ciel it's annoying that if a female character so much as has some leg showing, it's immediately labeled "misogynistic" and "objectifying" as if apparently girls can't be proud of their body as Bloody Miri said in another thread: "if she got it, flaunt it!". I'm not saying that every female charcter needs to be super-stripperific, not even close, but it would be nice if people did not cause an uproar just a girl in a video game had ample breasts(xenoblade chronicle 2) or had thighs showing(persona 5 royal). That being said, i'm not someone who likes pointless breasts and butts shoved in my face constantly , especially if it detracts from other parts of a game(story, character develop. gameplay) But these are just my personal thoughts, judge me how you like.
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 6, 2019 18:43:48 GMT -6
Edit: Okay uh... for some reason every reply I post is being compiled into one big mess. Can anyone help please?
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 6, 2019 18:53:59 GMT -6
OwloftheNight98 It's so people don't double/triple/quadruple/etc. post When you want to post but no one has posted after you yet, you can just edit your last post to put your additional thoughts in it. Oooooohhhhhh… Thanks! I thought my profile glitched out there for a second.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 7, 2019 9:14:32 GMT -6
OwloftheNight98 Double, triple and quadruple posts etc are merged into a single post. If you want to avoid that, I would just recommend editing instead (button just to the right of "Quote" in the thread display page). The thing about people having different perceptions of nudity/what's ok etc is that we're talking about a medium that is international on an international space. Different entire cultures, let alone personalities/attitudes, have different defining characteristics of what is "okay", so the topic is not something everyone will agree on and certainly not redefine the culture they're from, and thus not quite something I want us to get very far into. It's essentially a political/religious discussion in that way and gets nowhere.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 7, 2019 9:31:58 GMT -6
It is an interesting discussion from an artistic perspective.
Having helped folks who make NSFW comics and forging friendships with the folks in that scene, it's a very interesting topic especially when we look at the memetics and semiotics of nudity through the march of time.
Despite the clarion cry in the US against such things as offensive, etc. all of the folks I'm acquainted with are vocal supporters of the equality of men and women and of the equality of rights for everyone regardless of gender or race.
To get away from that and more to a reading of this topic: there is a fascinating theme in the taboo of nudity and its nigh-immediate sexualization as flatly a negative quality despite the overwhelming commonality of the biological end-result (the people posting on this forum and how came to exist).. I'm not going to judge the right or wrong of it as that's not my place, but it is an interesting thing to observe.
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Post by rav4ishing on Jun 7, 2019 9:49:07 GMT -6
Sexual seduction is often used as a weapon in Gothic demons. Nudity is very much relevant in a game like this.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 7, 2019 9:57:36 GMT -6
Sexual seduction is often used as a weapon in Gothic demons. Nudity is very much relevant in a game like this. Quod erat demonstrandum.
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 7, 2019 14:17:52 GMT -6
OwloftheNight98 Double, triple and quadruple posts etc are merged into a single post. If you want to avoid that, I would just recommend editing instead (button just to the right of "Quote" in the thread display page). The thing about people having different perceptions of nudity/what's ok etc is that we're talking about a medium that is international on an international space. Different entire cultures, let alone personalities/attitudes, have different defining characteristics of what is "okay", so the topic is not something everyone will agree on and certainly not redefine the culture they're from, and thus not quite something I want us to get very far into. It's essentially a political/religious discussion in that way and gets nowhere. I get where you're coming from with different cultures but what makes it irritating for me personally is that people wig out over the most insignificant things possible while there are bigger problems related to sexual subjects. Like, some complain about japan having stuff like lolis and incest in anime, but at the same time aren't paying a lick of attention to real life child trafficking going on; And do not get me started(because I'll start myself!) on moral guardians being hypocrites. Example #1: One of the loudest complainers for Persona 5 Royal's Kasumi wearing a leotard for her Phantom Thief costume was also responsible for the rape of a minor, and this is something that disturbingly common nowadays! Coming from a Christian, I actually don't mind Kasumi's outfit(aside from lack of color variety). Though that could be because I'm a man. Example#2:Someone on twitter pretty much said that people who draw loli rule 34 and stuff like are pedophiles and should eff of and die. This is the same person who was found out to have sent illicit text messages to a minor. You know there's a bible verse where Jesus said that before you pull the splinter out of your brother's eye, pull the huge honking tree out of yours! (Sigh) I'm sorry to explode and rant like that, but I just wanted to vent and get that off my chest even though that was really unnecessary, it's just that this whole social justice was really ticking me off.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 7, 2019 14:53:08 GMT -6
World's weird.
Have a beer.
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Post by Ciel on Jun 7, 2019 15:20:57 GMT -6
Though that could be because I'm a man. Nah, there are plenty of lewd and even +18 artists who are women. Have you ever heard of Sayori, woman lead artist of NekoWorks, an eroge developer responsible for works like Nekopara (if you're going to google it, beware, NSFW images incoming!)? There are plenty of other examples out there. Tsunako is another one, though she only draw lewds, and was lead artist at Compile Heart for a long time (she's still there as a freelancer nowadays), best known for the Neptunia series. Japan is full of examples like these, they're way more open than us when it comes to sexuality (it seems like it, at least). There's even a well known voice actress, Aoi Yuuki, who openly admitted liking shota (again, if you don't know what this is and you're going to google it, BEWARE!) lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 15:27:43 GMT -6
World's weird. Have a beer.
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 7, 2019 20:09:24 GMT -6
Though that could be because I'm a man. Nah, there are plenty of lewd and even +18 artists who are women. Have you ever heard of Sayori, woman lead artist of NekoWorks, an eroge developer responsible for works like Nekopara (if you're going to google it, beware, NSFW images incoming!)? There are plenty of other examples out there. Tsunako is another one, though she only draw lewds, and was lead artist at Compile Heart for a long time (she's still there as a freelancer nowadays), best known for the Neptunia series. Japan is full of examples like these, they're way more open than us when it comes to sexuality (it seems like it, at least). There's even a well known voice actress, Aoi Yuuki, who openly admitted liking shota (again, if you don't know what this is and you're going to google it, BEWARE!) lol. Huh, I was aware of stuff like this, but having it spread out before me really dawns it on me. Thanks!
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 7, 2019 20:10:22 GMT -6
World's weird. Have a beer. Not a drinker but, appreciate the thought.
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 10, 2019 13:26:54 GMT -6
Back in those days "nudity" were pixels.
In Bloodstained we have camouflage nudity so far, everything from shapes only (Vepar, a male demon with water surrounding it and other materials from our realm once he entered here to gain physical manifestation) to blood as a dress (Bloodless). So far I haven't seen any details of nudity at all, just shapes. Same goes with statues.
I expect not much more than what we've already have seen so far. I could be wrong. Maybe there is a floating peeping boob out there, or someone showing a ding-dong but I do not think that.
And even if there were some kind of "nudity", I would only see a character design in 3d models, not nudity per say.
In other words, it would be Art no matter what.
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Post by Aztec on Jun 10, 2019 15:53:46 GMT -6
This game is rated T for Teen. I'd be shocked if we get anything beyond Vepar's womanly (but nipple-less) silhouette and Bloodless in her bathtub with a hint of sideboob. That's probably all we're getting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 16:11:29 GMT -6
Strange world we live in where T and A in a teen or Mature game gets flak, but my neighbors down the road let their 13 year old watch Game of Thrones.
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Post by giwagiwa on Jun 10, 2019 19:36:20 GMT -6
This game is rated T for Teen. I'd be shocked if we get anything beyond Vepar's womanly (but nipple-less) silhouette and Bloodless in her bathtub with a hint of sideboob. That's probably all we're getting. Vepar redesign has nipple geometry (it's pointy where the nips should be) whereas old Vepar did not.
Anyhow I reflect your sentiment that "nothing beyond Vepar" will be in the game, especially since the ESRB rating gave Vepar as their example for partial nudity.
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Post by Aztec on Jun 11, 2019 2:52:25 GMT -6
Strange world we live in where T and A in a teen or Mature game gets flak, but my neighbors down the road let their 13 year old watch Game of Thrones. strange world? Make that “strange country”. That double standard with violence vs sex is very much an American thing. Europe is much more open towards sex. Hell, for the longest time it was super difficult to sell games with any sort of violence in Germany until relatively recent. That’s why NES games like Contra and N64 games like Turok had to change the enemies to robots and remove any trace of blood if they wanted to be allowed in store shelves. And if you think about it a regular person is way way way more probable to experience sex in their lives than it is to kill another human in their lifetimes. Why America sees killing in media easier to swallow than a pair of exposed nipples is too complicated a discussion for me to try and address here but suffice to say yes, it is bullshit. PS: i remember I was watching a few years ago some sort of crime/forensic documentary show on either Discovery Channel or TLC or one of those where they were straight up showing dismembered bodies and detached extremities decaying and shit in all their gory glory but if one of those bodies happened to be female lo and behold the blurry dot on screen to censor the nipples on the torsos. I found that both hilarious and depressing.
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