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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 2, 2019 17:25:16 GMT -6
Hey all, I'm getting ahead of this and have decided this will be our spoilers policy for launch time - ALL posts of in-game content of the launch game will be kept to this thread, all the way to July 1, 2019. This is so that people have somewhere to discuss things they would like, but out of respect to those who have not received it yet, something easy to avoid (such examples being Switch players, people in different shipping situations, or those sensitive to spoilers in general). After July 1, you will be able to create new/other threads about in-game discoveries, but still tagging them with (Spoilers). As necessary, you can use the forum spoiler tag or link to this thread as necessary when you are mentioning something spoiler-related in another part of the forum. Alternatively, the Discord has a specific spoilers set-up as well, which may be preferable if you just want to live chat about what you're finding and discuss things in real time at release. See the pinned messages in the Bloodstained channels #bloodstained-talk and #spoilers-bloodstained for more information on this - Discord invite below: discord.gg/eagBaPmThanks!
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Post by Yän on Jun 2, 2019 17:29:08 GMT -6
That guideline makes sense. That way I won't have to avoid this forum all together when the game launches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 18:05:32 GMT -6
I really hope this works, honestly.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 8:28:38 GMT -6
Spoilers.... Miriam and Zangetsu will be playable characters in this game...... Don't tell anyone. And Alfred.
Not Dominique.
ALFRED. He'll come in an indestructible, immovable crate.
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 3, 2019 14:19:13 GMT -6
Theorycrafting. Why I believe this is the 3rd playable character in Bloodstained Ritual of the Night. Potential spoiler below. Do you really wanna know? Seriously? If yeah, read on..
Theorycrafting: 3rd playable character (Why this character?) Miriam didnt start out with a scarf. She got it later. It helps the animation when she moves to get the feel of progression, a feel of speed. She gives off a trail.
Zangetsu, he have both light animations (Miriam had that too in the beginning but was changed due to double jump and other skills you gain later). Also, instead of a scarf, his part of his jacket (?) are leaving a trail too.
So far we are focused on trails, ok? Zangetsu will probably not get items like Miriam. So he needs this for the.. Lets call it "speed feel". Okey, so lets move some characters out of the way..
Alfred. He could've been playable, if it weren't for him being 1. Very upset and on the "wrong side" of the heroes so far. And 2. He is not part of the lesser people on the picture Mana Ikeda did (see attachment). His face is enormous. In classic art, people with very high importans are portraited like this. Big heads, hoovering over others, like a king, or being of power. He seems to be a big bad. Maybe even the main villain since he DID use Miriam and Gebel as bait to harness the Hell Power to begin with (this is already known). So he is a no go as a playable character for the main game. Boss Revenge? Sure!? If he is a boss, then by all means go for it.
Gebel. Same here, he and Alfred are both playable in Curse of the Moon along with Miriam and Zangetsu. This makes absolutely no sense in the real / main story of Bloodstained. This is why Curse is a "fun time with the concept" and a spin off, not to be taken as a prequel.
Gebel is also starring as the main villain, playing as him makes less sense even if both Alfred and Gebel both use clothing that could be used as "speed feel" they are more or less too dark for the purpose of being heroes. Gebel, could however, be a third character if they only made sure "New Game Plus (NG+) allows 1 special character", but this is not the case. Reason:
Once we learned, if this is theory is true, then Gebel is not the main villain, but Alfred (and or Johannes) is. Perhaps Johannes as a puppet to Alfreds demand. Who knows, we will talk about Johannes in a bit. Then Gebel could be shoved aside, and in NG+ take revenge on Alfred somehow with some cutscenes being unavailable. But this makes little sense too. And this promise has never been given, only "complete the game and unlock new playable characters!"
Johannes. He got no "speed feel". He wield a whip, but he seems very coy. He needs to stay at his place as an NPC at least until the last scene, so we can get his alchemy advice through out the game.
Mystery Man. He is a demon. I wont get into more details than that because it might spoil. I have some theories why he is NOT playable in the main game but I can't really tell, due to potential heavy spoiler reasons.
Who is left? Anne and Dominique. Skip to the answer: I believe Dominique will be playable. Her long hair works as a "speed feel" and while she is gone from the "shop" Anne can actually take over, no problem. It is also said Dominique likes FIRE in an interview. We haven't seen her fight. We also know she is an exorcist from light lore we have gotten. I also feel she can fill a good slot. While Zangetsu being more about melee, and Miriam being melee/ranged, we kinda need a ranged character, no? Dominique fits the bill. The image I spoke about:
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Post by akuwa on Jun 3, 2019 14:37:03 GMT -6
Enkeria there was an interview with Frieda Wolf awhile back (the VA for Dominque) which she described some of the types of content she voiced and other characters she voiced and by the sounds of that interview it sounded like a safe bet she was not a playable character. a lot of people assume the 3rd character is either going to be Alfred or Gebel but that's only because they were both playable in Curse of the Moon / they have been well introduced as characters with big roles in the game. I'm very uncertain who the 3rd character will be but I'm hoping for Bloodless and as Zangetsu/Alfred/Gebel are all humanoid bosses themselves I don't see anything that would give them a higher chance of being that playable character than Bloodless
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 14:43:12 GMT -6
Do we have any idea of when to expect the reveal for character 3, or are they just going to leave it as a surprise for release?
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 15:03:24 GMT -6
Actually, I'm curious at something. So, the Ars Goetia has 72 'demons' listed which seems almost in answer to the Shem HaMephorash's 72 names of God (each being an angelic 'aspect' of God). However, Alfred seeks the Liber Loagaeth of John Dee, which contained the keys to the 49 Gates of Understanding which Dee was instructed would provide him with the ultimate knowledge he sought.
The Testament of Solomon essentially states that Solomon was given a ring by the archangel Michael to command demons to build his temple. Is the castle of the game analogous to that temple? Are Solomon or Dee going to be mentioned? Playable?
Who knows?
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 4, 2019 11:20:00 GMT -6
Both Miriam and Zangetsu have the same aspect ratio as Gebel in Mana's picture. Hmm.
Do you guys think there are hidden characters not talked about yet? Or one playable?
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Post by testboy8 on Jun 9, 2019 8:58:43 GMT -6
Mysterious Man would be playable 3rd character as he got the highest vote. But unfortunately, Gebel would be the highest candidate for 3rd playable character.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jun 12, 2019 15:34:22 GMT -6
Hmmm... well I did watch a little bit of the let's play (just the demo section we've all played before) and I have to say that the team did an excellent job improving the lighting. A bit of the improvements were revealed in the trailer but to see it in action really hits home. Kudos to Artplay, Dico and Wayforward for really stepping up their game (literally)!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 15:55:56 GMT -6
ANother person is playing it on twitch, in the same area, but I can't watch on twitch because there are no options to play the video in reduced quality.
Every video there is in 60fps, and no matter what, it stutters every few seconds, and locks up. It does that at youtube as well, but unlike twitch, I can set it to 480p without the 60fps, and the videos there will play just fine.
I can also watch videos there in 1080p, but if it says 60fps, I can't watch it, even 720p 60 fps.
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 12, 2019 18:59:27 GMT -6
ANother person is playing it on twitch, in the same area, but I can't watch on twitch because there are no options to play the video in reduced quality. Every video there is in 60fps, and no matter what, it stutters every few seconds, and locks up. It does that at youtube as well, but unlike twitch, I can set it to 480p without the 60fps, and the videos there will play just fine. I can also watch videos there in 1080p, but if it says 60fps, I can't watch it, even 720p 60 fps. Even the very internet itself doesn't want people seeing the game before its release time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:19:27 GMT -6
True, but I also meant in general.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jun 13, 2019 15:01:39 GMT -6
ANother person is playing it on twitch, in the same area, but I can't watch on twitch because there are no options to play the video in reduced quality. Every video there is in 60fps, and no matter what, it stutters every few seconds, and locks up. It does that at youtube as well, but unlike twitch, I can set it to 480p without the 60fps, and the videos there will play just fine. I can also watch videos there in 1080p, but if it says 60fps, I can't watch it, even 720p 60 fps. I watched a bit of one Youtuber, but it was difficult because he was one of those players who insists on jumping and attacking constantly even in screens where no enemies occur such as the drawbridge area. I really can't wait to get my copy and experience it for myself .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 15:05:41 GMT -6
Yeah, I saw lots of mistakes out of these 4 streamers that had me questioning if they were actual gamers or not.
"dude, stop trying to go through a door that is clearly not opening. The damn text on the screen says this door will not open unless you activate a certain mechanism. Walkingi up against the door is not going to do anything for you."
A few of them would just stand there tanking hits and wonder why they were always below 100 hp. "My dude, stop trying to go for the knockout by trading blows while you stand in place! You WILL lose!"
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 13, 2019 23:11:50 GMT -6
NO! You are playing classic video games now bro! You are going to dodge enemy attacks and be slow and steady with yours to survive AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT!!!
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Post by jboogieg on Jun 14, 2019 3:50:32 GMT -6
I don't think snarking on other people's play style is very fun or in the coda of wanting more people to play IGA's games. So long as they're having fun what does it matter?
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 14, 2019 10:27:52 GMT -6
I get what you're saying and I apologize for making fun of that. But I was making a spongebob reference, and... I'll be honest, there are times where it becomes less a case of preferred playstyle and more the streamer is making some pretty dumb decisions, also some streamers do feel like they are genuinely spoiled by handholding, nothing against forgiving video games though.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 14, 2019 10:57:21 GMT -6
I like games. Other gamers say to me, 'You're a great gamer', people who are acknowledged as good at games. Games, when I beat them, tell me I'm a winner. I learned from winners. That's what I'm known for; winning. I built my reputation on being a winner. People ask me how I do it. It's because I'm a winner; and that means, you know what that means? They want to be like me. A real winner. You have to be strong and smart to win. These aren't all my words; that is they're not used exclusively by Mr. Welldone. I say them because that's what I'm about; being strong, being smart, and being a winner. But people use words like strong, smart, and winner when they talk about Mr. Welldone. You know it's true because I did win. I play the best games and that's why I won. I'm smart. Mr. Welldone is smart and a winner, thats what they say about me on the Facebook and the Reddit.
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