Epic Store Fiasco

Honestly thought this topic would've gotten more chatter or something, but seems no one is interested, other than a few of us.....cyberakuma That link is very disturbing, hadn't come across it yet, so thanks for sharing. It helps show that I didn't make this thread in error and misplaced fears.Saw Question on, several times, including the day this thread was made and nothing was stated (obviously) to help explain if we should be concerned. I'm hoping that at least one publisher will be decent enough to not wait until the last minute or keep it as a 'surprise' and just come clean about their intentions, because this is becoming too disturbing a trend among companies.

I have faith in things, but I also had faith in Gearbox and Obsidian and Pitchford screwed one side up, while Obsidian got screwed over and are powerless to stop it. I don't want to see that happen with this project, as I'm sure IGA needs this to happen just as much, if not more, than any of us. This is his new baby, at the moment, lol.

purifyweirdshard : it's overlooked because it's literally smoke and mirrors. You (the buyer) are still not getting any service a competent client could offer even for DRM free games, you're still giving money to a despicable company, you're still using a launcher with security issues and malware suspicions (or at the very least you need to have a less-than secure account). Those words sounded like smoke in the eyes of the public after basically messing up backers and telling them to deal with it because with all the money they received Phoenix Point's team couldn't care less even if they had to refund every single backer.

They would have seemed more decent by not saying anything. The Phoenix Point debacle has been the absolute nadir of this whole travesty and I hope I never buy anything those guys are involved into. Screwing customers and then apologizing is one thing. Screwing customers and then making up excuses about how they're in the right and folks are in the wrong by getting upset is another and it really makes my blood boil.

I especially have to laugh at their notion of "You can delete the client after downloading" lol yeah and then reinstall it every time I need a new update or a patch comes out. Superb.

Personally, I don't feel it was misleading. Just that for most people, that isn't the core problem or addresses many of the problems, as freddythemonkey explained.

Regardless, I am very happy to hear that statement that it is still confirmed as coming to Steam and GoG. I have no issue with the game releasing on other stores, even the Epic store, the issue I and many others have is it releasing elusively there.

Not intentionally misleading I think, it's as much me not knowing enough about what's going on, but I've seen the issue erupt everywhere and I imagine others who aren't experienced or have done any research into Epic would get a similar impression and be swept up into the storm (just how the 'net works). It likely wouldn't change much depending on the person, but for me personally the exclusivity thing is a lot more severe if you have to use the platform to play the game. For the purchase itself, still not good if you hate the company and doing business with them, but the game you backed and are a fan of isn't locked behind using their service every day - meaning I'd have to wait 6 months/year for it to be removed from such.

For Bloodstained? I don't see how you could know. I don't know what SnapShot is, but for Pillars I could see multiple patches being necessary. Bloodstained could get more modes later or something beyond the campaign (we don't know at all yet), but from all cases in the past Iga's Castlevania games have been released as a 1.0 and that's it. That was the stated intention for this as well, to include everything at once, and while that sounds unreasonable considering the stretch goals, still something I imagine they're trying to do.

The case could very well end up too that by the time the additional content is done and ready, an exclusivity period is over and you can play/download the new content on the platform you wanted since it's no longer a consideration. In the cases I can think of, it probably wouldn't need your save data even, if moving that over isn't a possibility. The most likely candidates to me for "staggered" modes would be roguelike, classic, boss revenge, maybe new characters - all of which where your original character wouldn't be needed.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Bloodstained version
First they cancelled COTM on GOG, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a gog user.

Then they cancelled the vita version, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a vita user.

Then they cancelled the MAC and LINUX version, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a MAC or LINUX user.

Then they go for epic exclusive—and there is no one left to speak for me.

DSLevantine is referring to Curse of the Moon being cancelled for GOG, cyberakuma , not Ritual of the Night. In truth, it was less cancelled and more never intended and not properly communicated to folks. That's more on Inti's policies than anything else, but with the Limited Run release, maybe that's going to change (wouldn't plan on it, though).

As long as it's not exclusive, I won't have problems.

I had brought it up as a talking point of a very disturbing trend and had mainly wanted clarification on a concern that not only I had with it. Glad things are turning out ok, in the end.