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I find that the PPSSPP is strongest when it comes to upscaling real-time rendered 3D visuals. Thus, the Rondo remake of DXC looks great, and so do most other 3D PSP titles. Having a legit means to experience the game this way (for those who don't already own it) would be majestic.

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The remaining titles have been revealed.

Bloodlines
Kid Dracula
CV the Adventure
Simon's Quest

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Post by freddythemonkey on Apr 18, 2019 8:39:37 GMT -6

I've never played Kid Dracula so I'm quite curious about that. But The Adventure is just an abysmal game which should be wiped off the face of the Earth.

Overall the selection is decent. Could've been better but it's not terrible, especially for 20 bucks.

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The game selection is good. I actually wasn't sure how they would round out an "early origins" CV collection of 8 without a couple of weird inclusions so I I'm pretty much fine with it. If a favorite didn't make the cut, it probably doesn't belong in the category they're covering here or has/will be released in the next collection.

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Post by Enkeria on Apr 18, 2019 11:02:15 GMT -6

The included a whole lot more than I expected really. But yeah. If people are disappointed I hope they know more how Konami works now. I didn't feel any kind of hype for this, knowing The New Generation is what EU will be getting and not the original, Bloodlines.

I hope people will enjoy the collection anyways, even if you live in EU.

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Hmm. Well, Bloodlines is on it, so it's a must-get. It's terrific to finally have that available, and I think its many diverse scenarios make it a perfect example of what the Classicvania style brings to the table in terms of variable-geometry levels that the Metroidvanias seem to rarely do because they have to maintain their structural integrity for backtracking, even when it doesn't make sense with non-castle outdoor areas to do so. (Though, when I think about stuff like Mega Man ZX Advent that has an interconnected outside world, or even Simon's Quest, I'm not sure if this is something IGA ever technically had to do, because you can fall off the map in those games, for instance. That would be changing things up a bit in the formula, but considering that PoR and OoE were already changing things into smaller, looser segments, it's slightly surprising the level design remained so strict.)

Simon's Quest is absolutely something that no early Castlevania history should be without, unless we're talking about including it in a later "Metroidvania" package.

The Adventure (GB), I'm surprised but not completely disappointed by its inclusion. Its slow-as-mud, take-no-prisoners gameplay is not the most endearing, and I'd never recommend it to newcomers, but it does a lot in just four stages, with great music, unique bosses and enemies, an intriguing art direction, and complex traps and platforming. It takes a while to adjust to its pace, but playing it by its own rules, and if you're lucky enough to uncover its secret rooms with 1-ups and such, it is a very rewarding experience whenever you inch closer to conquering it. I enjoyed Adventure Rebirth a great deal, but it didn't capitalize on a lot of the things that made The Adventure stand out to begin with; rather, in a number of ways, it tried to conform it more blandly with every other Classicvania, and in terms of the collection, it maybe came too late to be considered part of the defining era of the series.

Kid Dracula...I almost feel like I'm being trolled. I know there is a portion of the fandom that adores it and sees it as an extension of Alucard's SotN adventure, and I'm sure its clever and fun enough, but I've never really given it a try and have my doubts that it belongs on a collection like this, considering the other options available. The ONLY caveat, is that Kid Dracula was featured in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, AND Galamoth (the boss, not the board member) debuted in this game, so, you could make a case there for its inclusion as a part of Castlevania's main public identity. Actually...I guess, technically, in the early days, it was one of the primary titles available, too, though I never made that connection until it was pointed out to me years later.

Personally, swap out Kid Dracula with Dracula XX (SNES), and I'd be really happy with this collection. Rondo of Blood would have been great, but I think it must be either affected by the Requiem Collection or be considered too much of a transition title to SotN (which I really don't agree with if you're including Simon's Quest). Historically, it's too important not to be included. I personally have tremendous respect for it more than outright love it as a playing experience, but it should have been on this, particularly to highlight how diverse the Classicvania era was with teams and directors moving in and out with new visions for the franchise. I would've been fine with swapping The Adventure GB out for Rondo, though in a perfect world, I would still like The Adventure GB to be on this somehow, since I have a fondness for it and it is the prequel to the also-included Belmont's Revenge. It's just that I don't know if I wanted that adventure in exchange for the likes of Dracula XX and Rondo. Then again...I guess that Rondo of Blood is technically a prequel to SotN and both of them went under the heading of Dracula X at one point, if I recall right. But that shouldn't exclude Dracula XX, which leans more traditional and was actually released internationally at the tail end of the Classicvania era.

Overall, yeah, I am a little disappointed. But beggars can't be choosers, and Bloodlines is going to be playable again for a reasonable price (I assume), with a lot of terrific games around it in one place that I would consider either top-tier or on-the-bubble Classicvania entries for myself.

Now, with this out of the way, we have to see if A.) There will be a second collection, and B.) if there will be a brand-new entry, as rumors from last year suggested as being connected to the announcement/release of a Castlevania collection.

Apr 18, 2019 11:10:00 GMT -6 purifyweirdshard said:

The game selection is good. I actually wasn't sure how they would round out an "early origins" CV collection of 8 without a couple of weird inclusions so I I'm pretty much fine with it. If a favorite didn't make the cut, it probably doesn't belong in the category they're covering here or has/will be released in the next collection.
So apparently this being the "first" may not be true at all and they just messed up their language when releasing the first promo images for the game lol.

I did think it was a little curious to state that in the marketing casually without really going out of their way to promote it. Is there a story about this?

In terms of not belonging, I'm not entirely sure that Rondo doesn't belong if Simon's Quest does. Is that what you're talking about? In terms of Adventure Rebirth, I think it's sort of a really late interpretation of Classicvania, and so it is sort of in a no-mans-land in terms of belonging to the early era of Castlevania.

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Post by purifyweirdshard on Apr 18, 2019 14:29:07 GMT -6

Quoting Mario Santos' public post on Facebook about that -

Boy... I have the impression people have badly misunderstood this "first" thing. When I first saw it I knew it had to be a typo due to context (three collections coming one after the other).

This started here:

There it reads:

"The first Konami Castlevania Collection is designed to be a completed collection around the origins of the historic franchise."

But this was misplaced, most likely a typo. If you visit the site now it says:

"This KONAMI Castlevania Collection is designed to be a collection around the origins of the historic franchise. Included is a unique eBook that has details provided by developers, artists and other inspired by the Castlevania legacy. Released as part of the KONAMI 50th Anniversary celebration, now the best time to relive these timeless classics that helped define the platformer genre."

No mention of "first": www.konami.com/games/50th/ac/castlevania/us/en/

The only statement to make use of "firsts" in any capacity is the Arcade one which is, really, the first one in the lineup:

"KONAMI starts its 50th anniversary celebration with this first installment of the Anniversary Collection series of the all-time classics!"

The "first" being used here is in reference to the fact that there are three classics collections, not that there was a "second Castlevania collection planned". One could argue that the "This KONAMI Castlevania Collection" is hinting that there is ANOTHER in development, and THIS one deals with the CV classics, but I think that would be kiiiiiiiiind of a stretch when seen in context (because the OTHER collections deal with OTHER games, and the Arcade one also uses "this").

I found that strange even back then because the Japanese page made NO MENTION of "first" or hints of "another CV collection" at all in the Castlevania page. I checked it today and it says exactly the same thing as when it was revealed.

As far as I know, that's the entirety of the story.

As for Rondo vs CV2, I can understand not including Rondo as it's had more prominent and frequent saturation with releases than Simon's Quest, which being left out would create an obvious gap in the NES releases. Outside of maybe the eshop on one or more of the Wii or 3DS products, I don't think it's been playable on a console otherwise since...the NES itself? Much the same for several of those.

On Kid Dracula - similar to the above, I think it's nice that a region outside of Japan will be able to play the game for the first time at all, to even decide if we like it or not.

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Apr 18, 2019 14:29:07 GMT -6 purifyweirdshard said:

As far as I know, that's the entirety of the story.

As for Rondo vs CV2, I can understand not including Rondo as it's had more prominent and frequent saturation with releases than Simon's Quest, which being left out would create an obvious gap in the NES releases. Outside of maybe the eshop on one or more of the Wii or 3DS products, I don't think it's been playable on a console otherwise since...the NES itself? Much the same for several of those.

On Kid Dracula - similar to the above, I think it's nice that a region outside of Japan will be able to play the game for the first time at all, to even decide if we like it or not.

Thanks for the info. Yeah, I'd say that rules out a second collection for the near future. It did seem a little too good to be true...

Your logic about the games makes a lot of sense. When I think of it that way, it's actually a pretty accurate portrayal of where Castlevania was in terms of mainstream-ish exposure up until 1997. Overall, Bloodlines, despite being stuck with comparisons to Super Castlevania IV in the Console Wars, was probably the last best-known Classicvania to general audiences prior to the Symphony of the Night era (potentially why the prologue in SotN is "mislabeled" as Bloodlines?). As I've been doing gradual research on Castlevania 64's development, it's interesting that Bloodlines even got a shout-out in one magazine article in relation to Cv64, showing that it registered more so than the later Dracula XX on SNES. And Kid Dracula, via the Game Boy semi-sequel/remake, was a part of that whole early run. I remember the advertising for it with Game Boy, even if the NES original was previously unavailable.

The widespread exposure of Rondo is a relatively modern development, and PS4 owners get the benefit of having the Requiem collection in addition to this one. As for Dracula XX...well, it's controversial regardless of my personal enjoyment of it, and it's still available via Wii U and 3DS.

All things considered, I've gotta be pretty happy with this collection.

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At a $20 price-point this is an easy purchase assuming there aren't any glaring technical problems with the collection. The game selection could have been better but it's a nice start. Looking forward to playing Bloodlines for the first time.

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Are you sure your getting "The New Generation"? I haven't heard or seen any info that says there will be any localization differences from Sony's releases and America is getting the original Bloodlines.

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Also not that I doubt it but has anyone seen a price confirmation of $20? I havent seen one.

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Anyone notice the gold trophey for Haunted Castle in the Arcade Collection?

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I don't really think that Konami is nodding to Bloodstained... but could it be?

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Apr 18, 2019 19:23:14 GMT -6 roguedragon05 said:

Anyone notice the gold trophey for Haunted Castle in the Arcade Collection?

The legend will again be stained by blood

I don't really think that Konami is nodding to Bloodstained... but could it be?

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Are you sure your getting "The New Generation"? I haven't heard or seen any info that says there will be any localization differences from Sony's releases and America is getting the original Bloodlines.

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Also not that I doubt it but has anyone seen a price confirmation of $20? I havent seen one.

Only people said it will be as such. AndI believe them funny enough. So no source. I take it for granted I guess. Would be strange to get an ntsc for pal users.

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You know... going off of what I said earlier about the gold trophy for Haunted Castle possibly being a nod at Bloodstained... I remember when Metal Gear Survive came out there were some employees/employee that put in cryptic clues and paid tribute to Kojima as well as Kojima Productions and called a couple of the employees that made Survive backstabbers. Is it possible that we have something like that here, could some employee who wants a better future for the Castlevania franchise and whose job it is to make up trophy names have decided to lash out and sneak this praise for Bloodstained under the radar?

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hahaha I hadn't heard about that Survive thing, but that's what I told the other mods I thought the Haunted Castle thing was. Not a shoutout from "Konami" itself, but a guy or 2-3 who know what's up

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Official site confirms Michiru Yamane interview, maps, art, and more to be in the bonus ebook that's at least 74 pages long! It's dubbed: "The History Castlevania: Book of the Crescent Moon." I'm very surprised and happy about this.

Also, I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who thinks The Adventure (GB) has its merits. Ollie Barder, who writes frequently about games and anime over at Forbes, just wrote: "However, for me, I am elated that we have The Adventure included here. While many prefer Belmont’s Revenge, I still rate [sic] the previous Game Boy game. It’s much harder, gloomier and just generally more exacting. Not to mention that it has some absolutely fantastic music."

Now, I don't think I'd say it's better than Belmont's Revenge, and I don't think I'd really recommend it to anybody, but like I said earlier in this thread, it does have its charms that I appreciate.

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