Regarding the boss battles~

Hello everyone, I hope everyone is doing great!

while I was replaying one of my favourite games ( Kingdom hearts 2.5 Remix ) it actually came to my mind that.. will we ever see some super bosses in Bloodstained ?

you know.. optional bosses been always there in almost all of the IGAVANIA games like: Legion from CoD, The forgotten one from LoI, Jiang Shi from OOE etc... but to be honest they felt like normal bosses (difficulty and reward wise)

so I would love to see the optional bosses in Bloodstained to be completely hard and rewarding I know that IGA said "his" boss battle won't be hard, but please don't do the same for all the optional bosses let them have 1 million HP and insane difficulty ..very good drops, and Trophies/Achievements too


P.S IGA Hard mode would be fun xD

Yeah, I'd be up for some insane boss battles, not sure why but reading your post reminded me of when I took on Emerald and Ruby from FFVII back when it first came out. I don't recall the internet really being a mainstream thing back then and you couldn't access all the various methods to defeat them so it was a painful slog. I'm not advocating something as monotonous as those battles, but yes a huge spike in difficulty is welcome on a few select boss battles in mine eyes :-P

To hell with ruining the difficulty paradigm leading up to the eventual final boss haha!

Silver

Agreed

why not a twisted mass of tentacles held in place by iron bands that fire little thorns at you rapidly? >P

one of his forms could be that he breaks the bands and now this wiggling mass fires in a cone or extends to try and grab you and squeeze the life out of you

I guess the kind of boss I would want to be a super boss would be the kind where even with some of the most broken setups of the game you would still have a bit of a challenge to get through the fight

I would love to see something similar to what Star Ocean 3 and 4 did. That is having optional / unlockable areas where enemies start of at an end game level of difficulty and strength and by the time you beat those areas you're able to wipe out the final boss easily. Assuming that the max level won't be reached by the time most players beat the game this can help completionists reach 100% for levels and items. Tying into there being an insanely hard secret boss of course.

Reading this I just thought of Rondo of Blood, maybe it's a good idea for them to add the final attack before they die thing when you kill them.

Ok so I've got a mouthful about boss fights.

First and foremost, I think most every Castlevania bosses are pretty much perfect. They are designed to just be attacked over and over without wonky gimmicks that detract from the battle. That's what they do. That's what they're good at.

The absolute most frustrating bosses I can think of are puzzle bosses or bosses that have a gimmick to them; Either the gimmick goes off perfectly and there's no challenge at all, or they refuse to cooperate with getting the gimmick to work and it's a frustrating mess; damned if it works, damned if it doesn't. Additionally, it seems like EVERY action schlock game that's not Castlevania (Gergoth does it ONCE, but it's fine) has a boss that gets stuck/bashes their heads into a wall and are stunned/have their weak point revealed. There's no skill to it, it's either dodge so you can attack them or never be able to attack them ever. Also the Ocarina of Time formula of "use item to stun, follow up with attacks" is pretty bad. They're both pet peeves of mine and the only game I've really seen the former done convincingly in is Shadow of the Colossus.

I don't see the point in putting in a really gimmick that the fight revolves around when fantastic bosses like Blackmore exist; the first time I fought him he did so much damage and attacked at such a pace that I was convinced I needed to go through with some kind of gimmick to make him weaker or lessen the frequency of his attacks, but nope, he just hits like a truck and by god you're going to fight him over and over until you figure him out. And you know what, that victory felt AWESOME. I earned that win super hard, and if I'd had to do some kind of dumb gimmick to get around him, I wouldn't have felt nearly as satisfied in the end.

That's not to say bosses with puzzle elements aren't bad: The Wallmaster and Eligor from the same game have puzzle elements like figuring out the safe spot in his attacks and slowly taking away Eligor's ability to attack before scaling him respectively, but they're both based around thinking intelligently within the boundaries of their attack methods. The Puppetmaster is fine because his doll attack is designed to work present an obstacle for you to work through while he prepares his very slow swapping attack. At the end of the day, gimmicks are completely unnecessary because making an enemy with an attack pattern that you have to figure out and work with is way more satisfying than any 3D Zelda boss. Except for Goht. Goht is awesome.