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Post by Waifu4Life on Aug 20, 2018 9:21:16 GMT -6
Why else wouldn't they talk about it for so long or show any screenshots? The physical card thing is just a scapegoat, they still could have made it digital only. Very disappointed!
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Post by Cplus on Aug 20, 2018 9:35:45 GMT -6
I guess if people want a portable bloodstained they're gonna have to get a switch. The ~2100 people that backed for the Vita are most likely very disappointed as well.
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Post by Waifu4Life on Aug 20, 2018 9:50:16 GMT -6
I guess if people want a portable bloodstained they're gonna have to get a switch. The ~2100 people that backed for the Vita are most likely very disappointed as well. No way am I supporting Nintendo until they get with the times, stop their anti-consumer practices and make more durable hardware like they use to. IGA's gonna have to crack open his wallet on this one because I backed the $300 tier as well as a 2nd Vita copy of the game as a present for my friend, sooo disappointed. Oh well, this deserves a meme:
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Post by allooutrick on Aug 20, 2018 10:16:20 GMT -6
I'd imagine they can't do it digitally because of Sony. There are, possibly, servers specifically for the Vita. Some that hold the games and some that allow for online play to be possible. Perhaps others that perform other tasks aside from login authentication and security. So it would be Sony's call to stop spending money on these servers and this would be why digital release isn't a possibility.
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Post by demiurgos on Aug 20, 2018 10:30:24 GMT -6
I bought a PS Vita because of this game. I'm beyond words to describe how disappointed I am.
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Post by Cplus on Aug 20, 2018 10:55:04 GMT -6
I bought a PS Vita because of this game. I'm beyond words to describe how disappointed I am. I almost bought a Vita for this game too was literally one click on the buy button on eBay. Really happy I decided to get it on console instead.
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Post by dietsoap on Aug 20, 2018 11:25:24 GMT -6
You can't even imagine how broken up I am over this. Even if many of us were expecting and dreading this day, it still hurts so much to finally have it confirmed. While there's always going to be that lingering thought of "what if they finished the game sooner", the reality is Sony likely shoulders the greatest blame. The Vita's greatest enemy has always been the NA branch of Sony themselves, fuck them so hard.
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Post by Shinkai on Aug 20, 2018 11:40:55 GMT -6
Selfish as it is, I was actually glad to hear this. I sympathize with those who backed for Vita, but the system is so old at this point and it’s architecture so different that it likely would’ve resulted in a worse game overall if they had to make it Vita-compatible.
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Post by Waifu4Life on Aug 20, 2018 11:41:22 GMT -6
You can't even imagine how broken up I am over this. Even if many of us were expecting and dreading this day, it still hurts so much to finally have it confirmed. While there's always going to be that lingering thought of "what if they finished the game sooner", the reality is Sony likely shoulders the greatest blame. The Vita's greatest enemy has always been the NA branch of Sony themselves, fuck them so hard. This is why I've been asking back in October if there were any progress on the Vita version. I mean it's strange that we didn't get any picks of that port since the project started. If you ask me, neither the Wii U or Vita version ever got off the ground. They were probably waiting for the main platforms (PC, XBONE, PS4) to be complete and then port them. You'd be surprised at what the Vita can handle, many great 2.5D games play great on this platform.
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Post by Waifu4Life on Aug 20, 2018 12:21:32 GMT -6
So, Fangamer as already started e-mail us. First part is pretty much IGA's e-mail from this morning while the 2nd part from them is as followed:
From reading this, it looks like:
1- If you got a limited tier, you're screwed 2- For a non limited tier , seems that they'll only refund you the game (waiting for a reply from them to confirm this)
Well, after this and Mighty No 9 before it, I'm pretty much done with Kickstarters.
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Post by waifu on Aug 20, 2018 13:00:50 GMT -6
yeah this fucking sucks I wanted a vita version I paid for a vita version in fact I paid for the vita version to come out last fucking year this is such a shitty move like everything about this kickstarter has been bad i don't know how they have fuck up after fuck up
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Post by waifu on Aug 20, 2018 13:04:47 GMT -6
Every kickstarter I've backed has been delayed. Though this is by far the biggest blow of them all. The only one I really wanted and they toss out two huge fucking disappointments on the same day. This game was supposed to be out in 2017, like what the fuck are they doing over there? Games have been announced and released in the time it's taken for them to release the game.
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Post by Valtiel on Aug 20, 2018 13:04:49 GMT -6
yeah this fucking sucks I wanted a vita version I paid for a vita version in fact I paid for the vita version to come out last fucking year this is such a shitty move like everything about this kickstarter has been bad i don't know how they have fuck up after fuck up Good thing you can get a refund!
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Post by waifu on Aug 20, 2018 13:07:00 GMT -6
yeah this fucking sucks I wanted a vita version I paid for a vita version in fact I paid for the vita version to come out last fucking year this is such a shitty move like everything about this kickstarter has been bad i don't know how they have fuck up after fuck up Good thing you can get a refund! Too bad I can't I'm on a limited tier and it was paid with a card that has long since expired and for a bank I've moved on from. I'm stuck with this shit
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Post by ZeroSbr on Aug 20, 2018 13:13:44 GMT -6
I am definitely getting a refund. Curse of the Moon was a nice side, but RotN is the entree I paid for. Not only did IGA fail to deliver his promise about the Vita version, but he also failed to deliver his promise to get the game itself out on time, delaying it to 2019. This situation isn't much better than the MN9 fiasco at this point, and I will never trust any "legendary" developer who tries going indie and asks for donations ever again. This is the first and last Kickstarter project I will ever support. The $175 I will be getting refunded will be much better spent on classes for increasing my skill set for my career anyways.
This will likely be my last post. RotN lost most of its appeal a while ago, but this is the final nail in the coffin. Goodbye everyone.
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Post by Waifu4Life on Aug 20, 2018 13:40:51 GMT -6
I am definitely getting a refund. Curse of the Moon was a nice side, but RotN is the entree I paid for. Not only did IGA fail to deliver his promise about the Vita version, but he also failed to deliver his promise to get the game itself out on time, delaying it to 2019. This situation isn't much better than the MN9 fiasco at this point, and I will never trust any "legendary" developer who tries going indie and asks for donations ever again. This is the first and last Kickstarter project I will ever support. The $175 I will be getting refunded will be much better spent on classes for increasing my skill set for my career anyways. This will likely be my last post. RotN lost most of its appeal a while ago, but this is the final nail in the coffin. Goodbye everyone. Sorry, but I think they'll only refund you the game, you're still paying for the swag (until Fangamer replies to my e-mail saying otherwize).
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Post by Nya on Aug 20, 2018 13:57:08 GMT -6
What a fucking mess.
How about doing the proper thing instead and giving us a full refund of the entire package if we want? Assuming the money hasn't already been pissed away, which it likely has.
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Post by allooutrick on Aug 20, 2018 15:11:07 GMT -6
Every kickstarter I've backed has been delayed. Though this is by far the biggest blow of them all. The only one I really wanted and they toss out two huge fucking disappointments on the same day. This game was supposed to be out in 2017, like what the fuck are they doing over there? Games have been announced and released in the time it's taken for them to release the game. A large reason why other games have been announced and released could be due to several reasons. One being that the majority, perhaps all, of the content is new. This means that there is no code for the developers to fall back on. It's the difference between growing your own wheat to make bread for a sandwich or having bread already available. Another reason is that many game companies have their employees sign a non-disclosure agreement. So when we see games announced and launched they have likely been in development for a while and are already near a releasable state.
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Post by waifu on Aug 20, 2018 16:14:25 GMT -6
Every kickstarter I've backed has been delayed. Though this is by far the biggest blow of them all. The only one I really wanted and they toss out two huge fucking disappointments on the same day. This game was supposed to be out in 2017, like what the fuck are they doing over there? Games have been announced and released in the time it's taken for them to release the game. A large reason why other games have been announced and released could be due to several reasons. One being that the majority, perhaps all, of the content is new. This means that there is no code for the developers to fall back on. It's the difference between growing your own wheat to make bread for a sandwich or having bread already available. Another reason is that many game companies have their employees sign a non-disclosure agreement. So when we see games announced and launched they have likely been in development for a while and are already near a releasable state. There have literally been games made by one man teams that have been announced and made in the time it's taken Bloodstained to come out. Bloodstained having a team of industry veterans working on it. It doesn't even matter that it's a new engine. This long is uncalled for by any standard.
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Post by Waifu4Life on Aug 20, 2018 16:29:27 GMT -6
I'd imagine they can't do it digitally because of Sony. There are, possibly, servers specifically for the Vita. Some that hold the games and some that allow for online play to be possible. Perhaps others that perform other tasks aside from login authentication and security. So it would be Sony's call to stop spending money on these servers and this would be why digital release isn't a possibility. Perhaps I should set the record straight, the Vita store is not going anywhere. People will still be able to bring indie games to it, SONY will simply not make any more physical cards. You can still buy PSP & PS1 games for your PSP from your PS3, Mac or PC. Only reason the PSP store is gone is because it was using a different architecture then the PS3, Vita and PS4 store, so there was no reason to keep it just for the PSP. So far, SONY wins over Nintendo when it comes to keeping digital goods alive for new sales and re-downloads. As for the online play aspect, yes, this will eventually be removed for both Vita and PS3. The solution to all of this was simple: 1- Don't include online play on the Vita, who cares, it's a handheld that people mostly play offline anyway 2- Release the game digitally for backers and future buyers 3- Pre-order physical copies from SONY for backers before the Vita order deadline (about 4000 should have done the trick) But as I stated earlier, I'm willing to bet that they never started development on it. Pretty sure they were just biting their time to see where the Vita would be in a few years before dropping it, they just used their stated reasons as an excuse to drop a port. Ah Kickstarter, the only time Bait & Switch can be legal.
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