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Post by python on Jul 1, 2018 13:43:00 GMT -6
After playing the backer demo, i get some bad vibes concerning Johannes' role. When confronting Alfred, it is clear the "Book of Logaeth" is a must have for any alchemist still alive. Let's imagine Johannes is interested in the book, he would need a cunning plan to get it (like obliterating his guild and his mentor since they would never let go of something that precious). After all, it's a coincidence that the only two shardbearers remaining are his "friends" : one who destroyed the Alchemist guild and got out of control, and the other one who mysteriously wakes up 10 years later, like a backup plan to clean the mess if anything had gone wrong... I guess i might be paranoid.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jul 1, 2018 15:07:25 GMT -6
No - you're not the only one feeling paranoid about Johannes. He just gives off a certain vibe that he knows much more than he is letting on and may have ulterior motives. Dominique's statement in her first cutscene "Oh, do you decide for her then?" only cemented my opinion. This is a good sign though; I like characters with a bit of depth.
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Post by Nezuto on Jul 1, 2018 19:59:32 GMT -6
Nice, I'm not the only one that got some Albus vibes, then.
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Post by dareka on Jul 1, 2018 21:41:27 GMT -6
After playing the backer demo, i get some bad vibes concerning Johannes' role. When confronting Alfred, it is clear the "Book of Logaeth" is a must have for any alchemist still alive. Let's imagine Johannes is interested in the book, he would need a cunning plan to get it (like obliterating his guild and his mentor since they would never let go of something that precious). After all, it's a coincidence that the only two shardbearers remaining are his "friends" : one who destroyed the Alchemist guild and got out of control, and the other one who mysteriously wakes up 10 years later, like a backup plan to clean the mess if anything had gone wrong... I guess i might be paranoid. I've actually always pegged him for last boss. He's as unassuming as they come, and too closely related to the two main characters not to play a pivotal role. Going by past Igavanias, we pretty much know Gebel's not going to be the real last boss. Alfred's too obvious a candidate, so that leaves Johannes and ... Dominique as my second choice ( because there's never been a Japanese game where the Church has not been up to no good). My money's on Alfred replacing Johannes at the alchemist shop when the time comes.
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Post by python on Jul 1, 2018 22:27:01 GMT -6
I've actually always pegged him for last boss. He's as unassuming as they come, and too closely related to the two main characters not to play a pivotal role. Going by past Igavanias, we pretty much know Gebel's not going to be the real last boss. Alfred's too obvious a candidate, so that leaves Johannes and ... Dominique as my second choice ( because there's never been a Japanese game where the Church has not been up to no good). My money's on Alfred replacing Johannes at the alchemist shop when the time comes. I agree, but considering IGA's work, he doesn't seem to follow the trend of "hypocritical Church is rotten to the core". In his previous games, the Church always used its ressources without fail to help the heroes to vanquish evil. However, it is still possible some rogue members of the Church could have their own agenda.
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Post by Arsenical on Jul 2, 2018 8:48:14 GMT -6
Don't forget about the controlled by a demon cliche (Gremory) honestly i don't think Johaness will betray Miriam, he obviously knows what happened and may have his reasons to keep it all as a secret but i refuse to believe he is a bad guy. As for Alfred im pretty sure he will get his hands on the book, maybe summon a demon and fuse with it then get killed by someone other than Miriam, also i remember Alfred's voice actor saying he would tell Alfred to watch his back if he had the chance. (spoiler: Alfred dies) Dominique miss bananas hair looks like she will be the character that will support miriam with the HOLY POWER! i don't see her as a posible enemy unless she tries to stop Miriam if she ever goes demonic but Zangetsu is there for that.
leave my boy Johaness out of your evil plot twists >- >
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Post by Arikado on Jul 2, 2018 14:09:01 GMT -6
It seemed to me that being a supporting character is as far as Johannes will get, sadly, but I would like to believe that there is more to his character.
The same goes for Dominique, by the way.
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Post by RichterB on Jul 2, 2018 14:49:39 GMT -6
Johannes reacting so quickly to Alfred's presence and getting to the castle without help was a little suspicious. But there's something about Anne, too. I wonder if she's Gremory in disguise. Something about her necklace somehow brought to mind that idea. Well, that, and the fact that she's hanging around a ruined village. Think Malus from Castlevania 64/LoD or Double from Mega Man X 4.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jul 2, 2018 14:50:44 GMT -6
I think there's something more to Dominique, I don't know about Johannes being more than meets the eye...aka a Transformer.
Well...one of them is probably an Autobot and one is a Decepticon.
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Post by Enkeria on Jul 2, 2018 14:51:23 GMT -6
Johannes get wounded. Alfred gains power. Gebel is dying. Go Miriam Go!
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Post by ovenkitty on Jul 2, 2018 16:39:21 GMT -6
Both Johannes and Dominique play important roles as NPCs, from a practical perspective it wouldn't make sense to do a twist making one the villain. However, there probably will be some sort of twist that casts one or both of them in a different light.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jul 2, 2018 16:51:15 GMT -6
Both Johannes and Dominique play important roles as NPCs, from a practical perspective it wouldn't make sense to do a twist making one the villain. However, there probably will be some sort of twist that casts one or both of them in a different light. Anne takes over for Domi when she's away from the shop
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Post by Nezuto on Jul 2, 2018 16:52:49 GMT -6
Or Anne is Bloodless and the necklace is a charm that keeps her in that form.
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Post by dareka on Jul 2, 2018 17:38:37 GMT -6
Both Johannes and Dominique play important roles as NPCs, from a practical perspective it wouldn't make sense to do a twist making one the villain. However, there probably will be some sort of twist that casts one or both of them in a different light. Another character could replace them at their stores, though. And I don't know if Anne's actually the last boss, but she's definitely the creepiest thing in that demo, lol.
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Post by ovenkitty on Jul 2, 2018 17:51:51 GMT -6
Both Johannes and Dominique play important roles as NPCs, from a practical perspective it wouldn't make sense to do a twist making one the villain. However, there probably will be some sort of twist that casts one or both of them in a different light. Anne takes over for Domi when she's away from the shop Interesting...
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Post by Arikado on Jul 2, 2018 19:07:44 GMT -6
Both Johannes and Dominique play important roles as NPCs, from a practical perspective it wouldn't make sense to do a twist making one the villain. However, there probably will be some sort of twist that casts one or both of them in a different light. Another character could replace them at their stores, though. And I don't know if Anne's actually the last boss, but she's definitely the creepiest thing in that demo, lol. You can thank her English VA for that, who tried to sound like a child, but ended up sounding like an old lady. It's worth noting that her Japanese voice is pretty fitting for a child. It's what you would hear out of a loli character in anime.
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Post by dareka on Jul 2, 2018 19:19:37 GMT -6
Another character could replace them at their stores, though. And I don't know if Anne's actually the last boss, but she's definitely the creepiest thing in that demo, lol. You can thank her English VA for that, who tried to sound like a child, but ended up sounding like an old lady. It's worth noting that her Japanese voice is pretty fitting for a child. It's what you would hear out of a loli character in anime. Mind if I ask how'd you get to listen to the Japanese voice? Is there a link to a video or something? For me, it's also the cross-eyed look that's creepy about Anne, though.
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Post by Arikado on Jul 2, 2018 20:00:41 GMT -6
You can thank her English VA for that, who tried to sound like a child, but ended up sounding like an old lady. It's worth noting that her Japanese voice is pretty fitting for a child. It's what you would hear out of a loli character in anime. Mind if I ask how'd you get to listen to the Japanese voice? Is there a link to a video or something? For me, it's also the cross-eyed look that's creepy about Anne, though. You can change the language in the beta demo by pressing all 4 shoulder buttons at the same time.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jul 2, 2018 22:30:53 GMT -6
And I don't know if Anne's actually the last boss, but she's definitely the creepiest thing in that demo, lol.
100% agreed. She desperately needs an art touch-up. Right now she's standing in a relaxed t-pose with little movement compared to the other characters and is far creepier than many intentionally designed spooky young girls from other games.
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Post by ghaleon on Jul 2, 2018 23:11:39 GMT -6
Yeah I kinda hope he's got some dark secrets because otherwise he's kinda poorly written the way Miriam has to tell him to stay back and let her handle monsters yet he always is willing to go off into danger on his own anyway without a thought in the world, then overdramatically cowers when that one monster comes crashing into the boat.
Maybe I'm just spoiled by trails in the sky though. The characters there are so damn well written by video game standards imo.
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