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Post by alexcalvo on Jul 13, 2015 16:07:12 GMT -6
I mean... It wouldn't be the first castlevania-like game to make a reference. One example being the VanHelsing game with the Belmont book. If so what would you like to see? I think a quick Belmont name drop in audio or text, or one or two of the series' famous weapons being attainable would be awesome. Thoughts?
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Post by XombieMike on Jul 13, 2015 17:25:22 GMT -6
I'd like everything they can't get sued for to be included. As much CV in Bloodstained as possible. I understand the merits of being it's own game and should be able to stand on it's own, but just personally I want to see as many things as possible that will make CV fans feel like the game is really filling the void and upholding the legacy. I have no doubt it will carry on the legacy of Iga's CV games, but I want to see other things too. I guess one thing that would make me really happy would be the rotating room from Super CV IV.
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Post by thrashinuva on Jul 13, 2015 17:53:52 GMT -6
I actually don't want any obvious tributes.
Considering Robbie Belgrade is in, I think it'd make sense for him to have a few lines that are obvious tributes, but I wouldn't mind if they didn't include much more than that.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 13, 2015 18:07:29 GMT -6
They better not add in that "WHAT IS A MAN" quote again.
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Post by Leon on Jul 13, 2015 18:10:00 GMT -6
"What is a magi-crystal!?" *throws crystal wine glass* "A miserable little pile of crystallised shards of magic that corrupt our bodies! But enough talk. Have at you!"
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Post by Motoko on Jul 13, 2015 18:20:24 GMT -6
"Ritual of the night" is IGA's way of saying farewell to CV and onward with Bloodstained ʕ•ﻌ•ʔ
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 13, 2015 18:22:50 GMT -6
"What is a magi-crystal!?" *throws crystal wine glass* "A miserable little pile of crystallised shards of magic that corrupt our bodies! But enough talk. Have at you!" Okay, now that I accept.  |
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Post by 緋月エリ on Jul 13, 2015 18:32:56 GMT -6
I think with the whip, and familiar gameplay mechanics, it's enough references to Castlevania for me. And besides, Gebel is totally Alucard!!
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Post by crocodile on Jul 13, 2015 18:45:47 GMT -6
I don't want them to go too deep with references. It would be nice for long time Castlevania fans (like I assume most people who bothered to sign up here) but it would probably be lost of many without that sort of background. I also feel if you go too deep with the references, it becomes a bit harder to exist outside the shadow of CV - the best case scenario is that this becomes a series that exists beyond this one game. I dunno, wherever the line is will be different for person to person and even each person might feel more for or against it depending on when you ask them so I guess we'll just have to see how IGA et al handle here.
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Post by Maker on Jul 13, 2015 19:08:12 GMT -6
*Game opens* *wine glass is thrown* done
sorry... edit, felt I should explain this...
Less is more sometimes. We all know whats going on as do a great deal of the backers I'd assume. That ONE thing is a very subtle yet well known Castlevania shoutout. I would rather have a rich history of Bloodstained making its own moments like this than trying to borrow something that isn't genuine or true to the core game itself. I trust Iga when it comes to stuff like this but the subtle touches are often the most evocative.
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Post by SookyLala on Jul 13, 2015 19:15:50 GMT -6
An Alucard reference would definitely make my day, even just a throw away comment of her once knowing some old guy named Alucard  |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 13, 2015 19:18:44 GMT -6
I'm sure the secret Igacula boss would be a good enough shoutout. What with his intro being a wine throw that damages you. (I can see into the future)
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Post by thrashinuva on Jul 13, 2015 19:27:29 GMT -6
I wouldn't mind if the Japanese side of the game had some tributes to our English localization, and vice versa. We could get some from the Japanese side that most of us don't know anything about.
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Post by kikumarukike on Jul 14, 2015 11:16:54 GMT -6
I think I don't want any reference to other CV games or lore. Bloodstained would be a new awesome thing that will create its own lore and everything. Like Guilty Gear and BlazBlue
I know there's going to be fan service but could be little details, nothing so obvious, like easter eggs or something.
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Post by lod7 on Jul 14, 2015 11:20:36 GMT -6
*Game opens* *wine glass is thrown* done sorry... edit, felt I should explain this... Less is more sometimes. We all know whats going on as do a great deal of the backers I'd assume. That ONE thing is a very subtle yet well known Castlevania shoutout. I would rather have a rich history of Bloodstained making its own moments like this than trying to borrow something that isn't genuine or true to the core game itself. I trust Iga when it comes to stuff like this but the subtle touches are often the most evocative. I think this is what I would want to. Just subtle enough that new gamers to this game would not understand it but to vets it would be a funny nod. Adding a full qoute or scene may appear jarring to the experience, especially if it happens often. Less is more |
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Post by Hyrist on Jul 14, 2015 11:40:36 GMT -6
I think we're going to get a 'not Alucard' reference with the voice actor from the origonal english version, so would I like them? I know that's a moot point, between the voice actor, the Swordwhip, and the Wine Glass throw skill. There will be homages to the series whether or not I like them.
And it's a good thing that I REALLY would like them.
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Post by alexcalvo on Jul 14, 2015 11:48:53 GMT -6
Well, I meant something small like this one from the VanHelsing game.  |
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Post by Ciel on Jul 14, 2015 12:02:01 GMT -6
"What is a magi-crystal!?" *throws crystal wine glass* "A miserable little pile of crystallised shards of magic that corrupt our bodies! But enough talk. Have at you!" Amazing. I think some references are fine. Bloodstained is a new IP, a new thing, but it exist because of Castlevania, so "We must remember our progenitors." |
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jul 14, 2015 12:11:36 GMT -6
...create its own lore and everything. Like Guilty Gear and BlazBlue. Eek (I'm a BB-hating GG fan lol). Maybe more like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls/Bloodborne? The three have nothing in common except the skeleton of the gameplay. I'm all for subtle references. The main callbacks to Castlevania should just be the return of elements from that game, though, and not so much campy lines or characters. I'm talking about wall meat, candles, stats, etc...the same kind of things that carry over from Iga game to the next, within reason. |
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Post by kikumarukike on Jul 14, 2015 12:19:42 GMT -6
Eek (I'm a BB-hating GG fan lol). Maybe more like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls/Bloodborne? The three have nothing in common except the skeleton of the gameplay. I'm all for subtle references. The main callbacks to Castlevania should just be the return of elements from that game, though, and not so much campy lines or characters. I'm talking about wall meat, candles, stats, etc...the same kind of things that carry over from Iga game to the next, within reason. XD I'm more a fan of BB my self but I like GG also, I suck so hard at them though  . Well hating aside, we agree that any reference should be subtle, only perceptible to the keen eye. While meat and food as health recovery is pretty good, I was thinking in something more weird, like eating flowers XD, is it just me? Stats I think are pretty much universal for RPGs. |
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