How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"?

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 12, 2015 13:23:57 GMT -6

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Post by ChucklesTheJester on Jul 12, 2015 13:23:57 GMT -6

Hello, there's been some debate recently over the number of rooms in the game, and if the game should have extra content over that number. However, IF as a hypothetical, the game ONLY had a number of rooms around the announced 1600 room estimate, how many of those do you think the secret "second castle" should be? I would just like to clarify that "second castle" in this case just means "a part of the game that you might not even encounter on your first playthrough, you can finish the game without ever accessing it", the most FAMOUS example in the Castlevania series being the inverted castle from Symphony of the Night, but other examples of "second castle" include Chaos Realm/Abyss in Aria of Sorrow/Dawn of Sorrow.

If your own exact preferred number isn't included, please choose the option that's the closest to it, and I'd like to hear your opinions posted in this thread.

Keep in mind that SotN had 942 rooms in the castle, so even if the "second half" of the game only had 400 rooms, that would still mean 1200 rooms in the main castle, which is MASSIVE, and pretty crazy. This is also my own choice in the poll.

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 12, 2015 13:29:17 GMT -6

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Post by ChucklesTheJester on Jul 12, 2015 13:29:17 GMT -6

The "second part" could totally still be in the same castle, just inaccessible unless you meet a certain condition, but yeah, fair enough. The Chaos Realm in AoS wasn't exactly huge, for example. It didn't have that many rooms.

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 12, 2015 17:26:10 GMT -6 via mobile ChucklesTheJester likes this

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Post by CastleDan on Jul 12, 2015 17:26:10 GMT -6

People saying it's not the biggest like they promised are crazy. They said the castle is over 1600 rooms. SOTN is only 900+. So on a one castle basis it's wayyyy freakkin bigger. There's a chance for a potential mirror castle and if that happens tell be wayyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger than SOTN.

So stop with this they didn't commit stuff

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 12, 2015 20:19:19 GMT -6 via mobile

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Jul 12, 2015 17:26:10 GMT -6 CastleDan said:

People saying it's not the biggest like they promised are crazy. They said the castle is over 1600 rooms. SOTN is only 900+. So on a one castle basis it's wayyyy freakkin bigger. There's a chance for a potential mirror castle and if that happens tell be wayyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger than SOTN.

So stop with this they didn't commit stuff

Im assuming im "people", because im the only person who attempted to convey a "negative" opinion in tbat update 28 thread.

Ill just say that I never made any conclusions or accusations, im just pointing out a POTENTIAL problem before it is actually set in stone.

Friends support friends, but good friends can tell you when you are wrong. Now im nobody's friend here, and I never said anything was wrong yet. But the principle is the same in that people shouldnt take offense or disregard an opinion seen as negative.

I also wanna say that calling people crazy in a non-jest way and then ordering them to stop would result in some ugly reactions by many people

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 13, 2015 3:55:49 GMT -6 Galamoth likes this

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Post by SookyLalaTooLazyTooSignInOnMob on Jul 13, 2015 3:55:49 GMT -6

None, iga said this would be his biggest caslte yet, id be dissapointed if it was split into two because that would mean its not technically his biggest castle its castles, but even then, sotn had like 1800 rooms with both castles..

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Post by Galamoth on Jul 13, 2015 4:47:16 GMT -6

Yep, I'd rather all of the 1600+ Rooms to be all part of one Castle. (I wouldn't mind if a certain number of those Rooms were blocked off from the rest of the Castle until Miriam obtains certain Relics/Key Items)

IF there's going to be a 2nd Castle, I'd think it should be extra content added later, after the game's initial release. (I'd certainly like to be just as big, and as varied in details, as the main Castle)

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Post by kdfukuyama on Jul 13, 2015 5:19:51 GMT -6

I prefer a big unique 1600 rooms Castle with some secret rooms (choice 4).

Of course, having another "inverted Castle" with more 1600 would be really nice. But I think it isn't only a matter of putting it upside-down. Iga team needs to plan and test that Castle too, which will consume time and effort.

So, I prefer having a good surprise if it happens, instead of creating a hype and having an unnecessary frustration later on

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Post by Sookylala still too lazy on Jul 13, 2015 5:29:07 GMT -6

I dont think they should add another castle, thats been done and loved on sotn, its a brand new game with a brand new story, maybe add a demon sanctuary with a massive secondary castle to explore, where the monsters originate or something

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 13, 2015 5:31:27 GMT -6 Galamoth and Motoko like this

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Post by florianbingart on Jul 13, 2015 5:31:27 GMT -6

I really don't know where to put my vote,

because I also would love to have areas not tied to castle, that would count as rooms (or better yet, screens). Like a town before... some ways in the woods... etc.

With that said, there could be some secret ways, to optional bosses, or items, I just don't know, what portion of the game should be locked. Some ways might be blocked, until you use a specific spell and the itmes you might get from the locked area should count towards the good ending...

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 13, 2015 5:34:43 GMT -6

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Post by Galamoth on Jul 13, 2015 5:34:43 GMT -6

Jul 13, 2015 5:29:07 GMT -6 Sookylala still too lazy said:

I dont think they should add another castle, thats been done and loved on sotn, its a brand new game with a brand new story, maybe add a demon sanctuary with a massive secondary castle to explore, where the monsters originate or something

I assume you're specifically referring to an Inverted Castle?

There's also the "Castle B"/Mirror-world Castle done in Harmony of Dissonance.

...Demon realm's already been done in the Sorrow games (but not with a massive castle within them).

Personally, I'm liking the reflection in the water of the Castle in this piece of concept-art: (Doesn't have to be an "Inverted"-style Castle, either)

It vaguely reminds me of "The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds".

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How many of the 1600 rooms should be "second castle"? Jul 13, 2015 5:45:00 GMT -6 Galamoth likes this

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Post by ChucklesTheJester on Jul 13, 2015 5:45:00 GMT -6

Jul 13, 2015 4:47:16 GMT -6 Galamoth said:

Yep, I'd rather all of the 1600+ Rooms to be all part of one Castle. (I wouldn't mind if a certain number of those Rooms were blocked off from the rest of the Castle until Miriam obtains certain Relics/Key Items)

That was ALWAYS an option I was open to. Let me quote myself:

I would just like to clarify that "second castle" in this case just means "a part of the game that you might not even encounter on your first playthrough, you can finish the game without ever accessing it"

And yeah, honestly, I'd prefer if it was that way. That way there's a greater chance for non-recycled unique assets to be used.

Well, either that or a demon world. That'd be unique assets too.

Jul 13, 2015 13:29:07 GMT 2 Sookylala still too lazy said:
I dont think they should add another castle, thats been done and loved on sotn, its a brand new game with a brand new story, maybe add a demon sanctuary with a massive secondary castle to explore, where the monsters originate or something

I like that too.

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