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Post by whitephoenix on May 29, 2018 17:38:33 GMT -6
This is unfair. It's released worlwide but my country which is Saudi Arabia. That is not cool at all. I'm talking about Curse of the Moon
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Post by whitephoenix on May 29, 2018 18:54:58 GMT -6
Found out it was banned from the Mid East entirely because of crosses.
Well congratulations to us and thanks religious fanatics.
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Post by gunlord500 on May 29, 2018 19:03:31 GMT -6
That's awful! I'm sorry to hear that, friend Is there any other way you can get it, like can Steam get around those censorship laws or anything?
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Post by purifyweirdshard on May 29, 2018 19:06:44 GMT -6
Found out it was banned from the Mid East entirely because of crosses. Well congratulations to us and thanks religious fanatics. Where did you find this out? It doesn't sound quite right to me. I'm drawing a blank even thinking of a cross in the game. Let us know if you find a source we can use for this info
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Post by whitephoenix on May 29, 2018 20:30:00 GMT -6
That's awful! I'm sorry to hear that, friend Is there any other way you can get it, like can Steam get around those censorship laws or anything? Thanks Friend, I'm already in Stage 6 Normal Veteran mode got it from the Playstation American Store for 9.99$ an hour ago.
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Post by whitephoenix on May 29, 2018 20:36:21 GMT -6
Found out it was banned from the Mid East entirely because of crosses. Well congratulations to us and thanks religious fanatics. Where did you find this out? It doesn't sound quite right to me. I'm drawing a blank even thinking of a cross in the game. Let us know if you find a source we can use for this info I asked some people apparently it got banned from the day it got announced that includes Ritual of the Night and the reasoning is that there are crosses in the game, also some people who backed the game are worried that they won't be getting their collector edition .
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Post by Arikado on May 29, 2018 21:04:27 GMT -6
whitephoenix I live in Saudi Arabia and this worries me. Not just because I ordered an EU code, but I also worry for the game's popularity here. It would suffer greatly due to being banned from stores. Though I don't think I've seen a cross in either Ritual of the Night or Curse of the Moon. And how do games get banned before they are out, anyway?
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Post by whitephoenix on May 29, 2018 21:40:20 GMT -6
whitephoenix I live in Saudi Arabia and this worries me. Not just because I ordered an EU code, but I also worry for the game's popularity here. It would suffer greatly due to being banned from stores. Though I don't think I've seen a cross in either Ritual of the Night or Curse of the Moon. And how do games get banned before they are out, anyway? Yeah man I honestly don't know what the thought process is, all I know that the game is banned just like God of War, Drawn to death and many other games.
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Post by XombieMike on May 29, 2018 21:59:01 GMT -6
Dengojin do you know anything about this?
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Post by roguedragon05 on May 29, 2018 23:14:34 GMT -6
whitephoenix I live in Saudi Arabia and this worries me. And how do games get banned before they are out, anyway? I looked up some info on wiki witch you may or may not already know but here it is... "The Royal Decree On Press and Publications (1982) set up the initial government regulation of Saudi books, newspapers and magazines, as well as all foreign publications sold in the kingdom. In addition to obtaining government permission, the Saudi citizen creating and distributing the content, had to ensure that it did not cause sectarian tension among citizens, or insult the royal family or Islamic values. In 1992 the "Basic Law of Governance" was enacted as an informal Constitution. Article 39 of the kingdom's "Basic Law of Governance" states that Mass media and all other vehicles of expression shall employ civil and polite language, contribute towards the education of the nation and strengthen unity. It is prohibited to commit acts leading to disorder and division, affecting the security of the state and its public relations, or undermining human dignity and rights. Details shall be specified in the Law.[3] The Ministry of Interior has "responsibility for all the Saudi media and other channels of information".[4] The ministry has been called the "main agent of censorship" in the kingdom.[4] It is charged with the `purification` of culture prior to it being permitted circulation to the public. A special unit, the Management of Publications department, "analyzes all publications and issues directives to newspapers and magazines" stating that way in which a given topic must be treated.[4] According to the Encyclopedia of Censorship There is no precensorship of publications but if any material goes against a directive, or more generally qualifies as `impure`, the department will check it and notify the minister of information, who decides in what way and to what extent the publication and its employees are to be punished. The main effect of this system has been to impose on journalists rigorous self-censorship." I'm sure a similar process is in place for video games, basically without freedom of the press they can say anything goes against the good of the nation/people and if no one gets exposed to it then no one can say there wrong either, I sincerely hope you find a way legal or not to play and enjoy the game best of luck.
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Post by Arikado on May 29, 2018 23:31:13 GMT -6
whitephoenix I'm aware of God of War being banned here, as well as other nearby countries, but I never once thought that Bloodstained would be ban-worthy. That is definitely making me worry for this game's popularity in this area... roguedragon05 Yes, games are being looked at by the information department here and are banned when they think they are a bad influence. It's such a stupid thing to worry about, honestly.
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Post by roguedragon05 on May 29, 2018 23:42:03 GMT -6
ArikadoWell Bloodless is naked in her bathtub and covered only in a dress made of blood and there are "I think" succubus in the game scantily clad, I know that sex is a big flag for these censorship organizations and the enemies are demons and other religious references from other cultures and the main Bloodstained game will have more magic and demons and Vepars boobs and what not mayhaps its a proactive decision? Also because the series is so heavily linked to Castlevania witch does have alot of religious references and crosses that could have something to do with it too maybe the government thought they were the same series or close enough to being so? Censorship sucks.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 23:59:27 GMT -6
This is hardly a consolation, but things like this remind me of why it's great that two of the three main modern consoles aren't region-locked.
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Post by Arikado on May 30, 2018 0:06:31 GMT -6
Arikado Well Bloodless is naked in her bathtub and covered only in a dress made of blood and there are "I think" succubus in the game scantily clad, I know that sex is a big flag for these censorship organizations and the enemies are demons and other religious references from other cultures and the main Bloodstained game will have more magic and demons and Vepars boobs and what not mayhaps its a proactive decision? Also because the series is so heavily linked to Castlevania witch does have alot of religious references and crosses that could have something to do with it too maybe the government thought they were the same series or close enough to being so? Censorship sucks. Bloodless may be one of the reasons for the supposed ban. 505 Games need to do something about this, because this ban, if it goes through, will hurt the game financially, as it's not just Saudi Arabia; but most of the nearby Arab countries will also issue a ban. That is what happened with God of War and Dissidia Final Fantasy NT recently. Question, as a community manager, you need to do something about this. Please let 505 Games know that Bloodstained is being banned here. A censored version of the game may solve the issue (that's what Witcher 3 did), so please consider it! Anything is better than the game being banned here and suffering financially and popularly.
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Post by whitephoenix on May 30, 2018 0:24:31 GMT -6
Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (Not in Austria, Middle East, Belugium, Luxembourg, Scandinavia, Poland, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine)
It's not releasing in those countries for some reason.
Is it a ban or something else? Who knows, the game not coming to those countries is a fact.
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Post by whitephoenix on May 30, 2018 0:29:15 GMT -6
Arikado Well Bloodless is naked in her bathtub and covered only in a dress made of blood and there are "I think" succubus in the game scantily clad, I know that sex is a big flag for these censorship organizations and the enemies are demons and other religious references from other cultures and the main Bloodstained game will have more magic and demons and Vepars boobs and what not mayhaps its a proactive decision? Also because the series is so heavily linked to Castlevania witch does have alot of religious references and crosses that could have something to do with it too maybe the government thought they were the same series or close enough to being so? Censorship sucks. Bloodless may be one of the reasons for the supposed ban. 505 Games need to do something about this, because this ban, if it goes through, will hurt the game financially, as it's not just Saudi Arabia; but most of the nearby Arab countries will also issue a ban. That is what happened with God of War and Dissidia Final Fantasy NT recently. Question , as a community manager, you need to do something about this. Please let 505 Games know that Bloodstained is being banned here. A censored version of the game may solve the issue (that's what Witcher 3 did), so please consider it! Anything is better than the game being banned here and suffering financially and popularly. Nope I would prefer not releasing over a censored version anyday. I would have to get it from the US store if either of those happened.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on May 30, 2018 0:35:01 GMT -6
I let 505 know about this whole thing earlier today. Hope you guys get your games.
Still, this doesn't sound quite right to me. I'd like to see something stating it than just discussion in passing, which sounds like all we have to go on for now? It's way too early and we know that the game isn't appearing at all in several Europe and ME stores as a separate issue
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Post by Arikado on May 30, 2018 0:38:35 GMT -6
whitephoenix Think about it like this: If the game is not released here, many people will not play it, as not everyone uses a US account, and not everyone likes downloading games either. If it's released with little censorship, many people will get to enjoy the game, and its popularity and sales will undoubtedly rise as a result. I actually don't like censorship in games, but if it's the only solution to avoid a ban, I say go with it.
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