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Post by Waifu4Life on Jun 3, 2018 10:36:23 GMT -6
I don't know if its been mentioned before but a lot of this silence could be due to legal reasons. idk You might be right... but it would really suck if this becomes a big lawsuit thing, and/or that things are so bad regarding the juridical stuff of who’s supposed to do what, that it’s hard to speak up about the fuckups. Anyhow... just speculating... won’t help. *non-naive happy thoughts* Don't think anyone wants to make a federal case out of this, but considering that this is a $10 game, they should just bite the bullet and send out a gift card(s) for anyone who don't have a working code(s) by June 6th and be done with it. |
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Post by Cale on Jun 3, 2018 10:49:15 GMT -6
Remember though, people didn't pay for CotM. It's better than nothing.
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Post by Galamoth on Jun 3, 2018 10:52:41 GMT -6
Remember though, people didn't pay for CotM. It's better than nothing. Oh, hey now!  CotM's a whole lot better than MN9 turned out to be. Edit: Though yes, the first part is absolutely correct. Backers technically didn't pay for Curse of the Moon. They paid for Ritual of the Night. |
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Post by demiurgos on Jun 3, 2018 10:54:25 GMT -6
You might be right... but it would really suck if this becomes a big lawsuit thing, and/or that things are so bad regarding the juridical stuff of who’s supposed to do what, that it’s hard to speak up about the fuckups. Anyhow... just speculating... won’t help. *non-naive happy thoughts* Don't think anyone wants to make a federal case out of this, but considering that this is a $10 game, they should just bite the bullet and send out a gift card(s) for anyone who don't have a working code(s) by June 6th and be done with it. Yeah, but the thing with BS:CotM not being avaliable for Region 3 (PSV/PS4 in Asia) is pretty fucked up. So, in theory... they should bite the bullet and make it avaliable to R3. Remember though, people didn't pay for CotM. It's better than nothing. Bwahahahahha!! |
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Post by Cale on Jun 3, 2018 10:55:02 GMT -6
To be fair, that was in bad taste. I apologize.  |
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:00:23 GMT -6
We could ask Ben Judd about how this IntiCreates stuff affects his client, but we know what happened last time Ben spoke up regarding Inti and his client...
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Post by Waifu4Life on Jun 3, 2018 11:03:44 GMT -6
Cale We got to this milestone at 4.750m and we should get every perk that was promised. demiurgos You're pretty much repeating what I said.
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Post by demiurgos on Jun 3, 2018 11:05:51 GMT -6
Cale We got to this milestone at 4.750m and we should get every perk that was promised. demiurgos You're pretty much repeating what I said. Sorry, Waifu4Life. English is not my native language. Something might have been lost in translation. In that case, my bad. |
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Post by Waifu4Life on Jun 3, 2018 11:23:27 GMT -6
Cale We got to this milestone at 4.750m and we should get every perk that was promised. demiurgos You're pretty much repeating what I said. Sorry, Waifu4Life . English is not my native language. Something might have been lost in translation. In that case, my bad. That's OK, it's not mine either. |
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 3, 2018 11:40:33 GMT -6
When do we get a Inti Creates Community Manager here?  Ha! |
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Post by gunlocksp on Jun 3, 2018 11:50:44 GMT -6
This really really sucks. Non of the options provided by Fangamer can be used. You know, I gave them a second chance and still, they failed to deliver. No GOG codes, fine. No PS Vita Asia codes, too?! Seriously, two strikes is all I can take!
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:52:12 GMT -6
Matt Papa is the PR person for IntiCreates. You can invite him here to address this issue, but I seriously doubt he will show up. I'd have to verify his account.He hasn't responded to any of my emails since he came on the podcast.
I know you're asking as a joke, but for people who don't know, this is the answer.
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 3, 2018 11:53:31 GMT -6
This really really sucks. Non of the options provided by Fangamer can be used. You know, I gave them a second chance and still, they failed to deliver. No GOG codes, fine. No PS Vita Asia codes, too?! Seriously, two strikes is all I can take! I don't think you are understanding that ArtPlay, IGA, Fangamer or 505 Games are not the ones creating these issues. It's all IntiCreates. |
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Post by gunlocksp on Jun 3, 2018 11:58:01 GMT -6
Was it not IGA that asked Inti Creates to make this spin off? Why can't he be diligent enough to check that we will not get a GOG version (or at least do not tell us at the last possible second we will not get one) nor will we get a PS Vita Asia version? Hmm? If you outsourced the project, you better be sure to take the heat if something happens. You cannot claim that "Hey sorry, we just outsource this product, don't blame us. We know we could have checked better, but we didn't so don't blame us, yes?"
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 3, 2018 12:10:30 GMT -6
gunlockspI believe there are more to it, really do not know how and why. But I do know IGA needed to approve somethings, mostly assets, and goals must be met as well. There could be ways to fix this in the future, if fans speak up, out loud. Then Inti Creates might leave the IP, or do something about it. Perhaps Fangamer or 505 Games will step in, if there is a new contract. Its not a high chance of happen, but things like these can happen. This sucks, I admit. But stay strong, and in the future, have these issues in the back of your head if you are close or want to buy a product related to a smiliar situation, or company (Inti Creates). I believe Koji want to please the fans, but he really needs to focus on the main game, make that one first. There is no time to fix issues that others have made. This is why we should direct our questions and angry letters to Inti Creates. It will make the most impact!
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Post by Overlord on Jun 3, 2018 12:25:25 GMT -6
Yeah, this could rightly be considered a screw-up on Inti Creates' part. Too bad they weren't aware JP console codes wouldn't work for "Asian" (non-Japan) region accounts. I would opt for Option #2 if I was in this situation, personally. Option 2 wouldn't even work if you're talking about a Vita. It's only an option if you have a PS4. |
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 3, 2018 13:03:06 GMT -6
You know... none of these arguments would have happened if Inti Creates had given us our codes, we'd all by blissfully busy pushing jump and attack buttons intstead of having time to vent our rage through the keyboards... this disharmony is all their fault!
No but seriously, I think that Inti can "MAKE" good games... but for fucks sake PLEASE gets someone else to distribute the thing next time!!!
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Post by Scars Unseen on Jun 3, 2018 13:24:06 GMT -6
roguedragon05 Honestly, there's not going to be a next time for me. The delayed codes was bad, the lack of communication was bad, the blindsiding us with DRM was bad, but actually refusing to release the game in all regions when the backers are from all regions? I'm beyond refusing to support Inti Creates at this point, I'm planning on actively rubbing this in their face any time they ever try to get involved in a crowdfunded project in the future. The quality of their games doesn't mean anything if they're going to treat backers like this. Internal company policies be damned, this project wasn't theirs to trash like this. They've earned a lifetime of anti-hype from me from all this.
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Post by Waifu4Life on Jun 3, 2018 13:28:16 GMT -6
roguedragon05 Honestly, there's not going to be a next time for me. The delayed codes was bad, the lack of communication was bad, the blindsiding us with DRM was bad, but actually refusing to release the game in all regions when the backers are from all regions? I'm beyond refusing to support Inti Creates at this point, I'm planning on actively rubbing this in their face any time they ever try to get involved in a crowdfunded project in the future. The quality of their games doesn't mean anything if they're going to treat backers like this. Internal company policies be damned, this project wasn't theirs to trash like this. They've earned a lifetime of anti-hype from me from all this. Maybe this is just how Inti works when they don't have a big publishers behind to make sure they do a good job. Inafune can blame himself all he wants, but at the end of the day, it was Inti Creates who made the game, so the multiple delays and port issues are on their head. |
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Post by gunlord500 on Jun 3, 2018 13:36:03 GMT -6
Was it not IGA that asked Inti Creates to make this spin off? Why can't he be diligent enough to check that we will not get a GOG version (or at least do not tell us at the last possible second we will not get one) nor will we get a PS Vita Asia version? Hmm? If you outsourced the project, you better be sure to take the heat if something happens. You cannot claim that "Hey sorry, we just outsource this product, don't blame us. We know we could have checked better, but we didn't so don't blame us, yes?" I totally know how you feel, Gunlock, but honestly when IGA was first creating Bloodstained, I don't think he had any idea how incredibly incompetent Inti Creates was. They absolutely bamboozled him and pulled one over on him. Now Artplay is sending refunds to people, i.e IGA is paying out of his own pocket for Inti's screwups! So I can't blame IGA for this, he had faith in Inti but they're the ones who let him and everyone else down. It's a total debacle at this point. Like I've been saying, I cannot fathom how anybody could screw up as badly as Inti did. |
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