RED ASH - The Indelible Legend

*nibbles on her muffin

they need to make the physics less floaty and add more weight to objects, but the lighting system looks good, the item creation/deletion system is in place, context triggers work, collision is ok, movement is repsonsive if really floaty (i didnt have any issues ladder jumping), character switching works, each character moves slightly different, and it isnt crashy, my only real gripes are you cant attack based on camera position instead of character facing yet and camera inversion x/y isnt seperated yet

i give this demo 4 out of 5 muffins and a red can out of blue

MML doesn't have notable TPS elements.  The entire point of me listing all those sources is that none of them noted a TPS element when they were placing it in a genre.
RA is clearly defined as having TPS combat.

This isn't a conflict, it's just a discussion.
Arc and me are on friendly terms, at least on my side.

I agree that it would be best if they gave this another shot a few months after it fails. What's awful is that when it gets relaunched it will have to battle an already amassed big amount of negativity from the disaster that was the original run.

This is just a friendly discussion.

Third Person Shooter is defined as "A 3D game type that has grown to prominence in recent years, especially on consoles. It combines the shooting elements of the First-Person Shooter with the jumping and climbing puzzles of a 3D platformer and a simple melee fighting system from a brawler.

Third-Person Shooter games almost always incorporate an aim-assist feature, since aiming from a third-person camera is difficult. Most also have a first person view, which allows for precise shots and looking around at environment features that are otherwise hidden from the default camera In most cases, the player must stand still to use first person view, but newer titles allow the player to play like a FPS; indeed, Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath requires the player to shoot from first person, only allowing melee attacks in the chase camera view.

The ability to Take Cover, and a reliance on it for victory, makes a game a member of the "cover shooter" sub-genre.

Melee attacks are more important in a third-person game, if only because close up fighting is easier in that perspective type, as are jumping and dodging. Add too much and it turns into a Beat 'em Up or Hack and Slash game. " Taken from here.

Seems to describe MML quite well, and indeed the site lists MML as one of the games to apply to this.

Anyways, the problem with Red Ash's campaign seems to be because of some conspiracy surrounding Inafune. A shame really, they should just be focusing on the game. This video talks about why Red Ash is failing.

The Final Bosman is one of the guys from GameTrailers, and his videos are interesting and funny imo.

The site I got the quote from is where it lists MML as one of the TPS. It also includes MMX7, Metroid Other M, and other stuff. TPS is a flexible genre.

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThirdPersonShooter

Seeing how I didn't notice the link at first (or you didn't originally provide but edited it in?), I had to search for it and the first result was Wikipedia (it is identical), so I assumed you pulled it from there.

But now I find out the source is tvtropes?

I openly questioned the reliability of wikipedia when I originally posted a link to it... and you give me tvtropes, an unreliable mess, without a disclaimer?
I don't even...



I apparently mistook you for a honorable person of a higher class, but it is clear now that you're a mongrel.

HAVE AT THEE!

Mod-kun, Mod-kun! You're going off topic again!

Well. What an update.

The initial goal has no chance of making it in my opinion but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Wow! Red Ash is saved

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Weird thing, though.... the Kickstarter has to meet the minimum goal to collect the pledges. If it doesn't hit it, nothing gets collected.

They've said that current pledges would go to various stretch goals (yet to be re-announced).... but that may not even happen unless if they act fast and really explain well what to expect.

So if the KS doesn't meet the goal, I wonder if they'll open up pledging through paypal or something? This is all very odd....