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Post by Galamoth on May 4, 2017 16:04:06 GMT -6
I know people are wating this guy to be the "Dracula" figure in the game, complete with second form and what have you, but do you think there could be other ways for the curse to go than the angel/demon look? it does seem to resemble a plant... You mean like Flowey in Undertale? (Just kidding... although an ultimate demon with a flower/other plant theme to it would be interesting.) I'd personally be okay with Alfred serving a partial "Barlowe"-esque role, with a bit of Julius (AoS) thrown in. Maybe he'll become an unwilling vessel for the true Big Bad.
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Post by fatihG on May 4, 2017 16:44:01 GMT -6
Ive got a feeling Alfred is going to be a character similar to Barlowe. Basically it will seem it is a good guy but will reveal itself to manipulate Miriam.
Therefor I believe it will not be a playable character.
Icant remember an 'evil' character to ever be playable in an Igavania. PoR had the sisters but they were basically brainwashed iirc.
Also I havent read any of the backstory of any character except of Miriam a bit... so this can be waaay off.
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Post by Galamoth on May 4, 2017 17:00:17 GMT -6
Icant remember an 'evil' character to ever be playable in an Igavania.PoR had the sisters but they were basically brainwashed iirc. Well, it wasn't an actual "Igavania", genre-wise, but Joachim is playable in Lament of Innocence. Albus in OoE isn't a straight-up villain (potential spoilers for those who've yet to play that game), but he is an antagonist nonetheless. Maybe Maxim Kischine in Harmony of Dissonance counts? It's kinda his fault that Dracula's Castle rose again in that game's plot, as he intended to resurrect Dracula just to fight him, and a second castle ("Castle B") arose as a manifestation of Maxim's vanity and glory-seeking.
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Post by fatihG on May 5, 2017 17:12:59 GMT -6
Heh, LoI is probably the only CV game I havent played (I own Judgement... take that as you will =P)
HoD, I did play but I cant remember much of it to be honest.
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Post by Galamoth on May 6, 2017 9:44:29 GMT -6
Heh, LoI is probably the only CV game I havent played (I own Judgement... take that as you will =P) HoD, I did play but I cant remember much of it to be honest. Indeed? So right now, at least on those grounds alone, I think it at least possible for old alchemist Alfred to be playable.
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 12, 2017 13:11:56 GMT -6
Playable characters
Miriam: Wide range of weapons, shards etc. Zangetsu: Katana and magical buffs. Dominique: Whip and holy spells. (Attacking like Belmont, not Miriam)
Alfred: Mini boss (?)
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Post by Galamoth on May 17, 2018 13:19:53 GMT -6
Looks like Alfred is playable, and similarly to Sypha from CV3, in the Curse of the Moon spinoff!:
Now I shall await whether he is playable in the main game.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jul 12, 2018 10:34:02 GMT -6
Wait, Enochian is mentioned in the game proper?
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 12, 2018 11:23:06 GMT -6
Wait, Enochian is mentioned in the game proper? Not directly, as of yet. Though it is apparent, because of the book's name, that it may be the same book of magic (containing a "divine language") written in the mid-1500's.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jul 12, 2018 11:27:43 GMT -6
Interestingly, the Rose has much symbolism with the Rosicrucian 'movement', if you can call it that since it was a wholly fictional organization, and Alchemy figured into it such as in the 'Chemical Wedding'.
The Rose had... dang it, something to do with Johann Valentin Andreae's personal history. That fellow was purported to have been at least one of the writers of the Rosicrucian manifestos.
That said, none of this likely has anything to do with the roses in the game. I assume those are there to echo the 'Bloodstained' rose theme of a stained glass rose.
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Post by XombieMike on Jul 12, 2018 11:44:40 GMT -6
Wait, Enochian is mentioned in the game proper? Like Galamoth said, not directly, but it's intended. Here's a bit of the interview I linked to you on reddit. xombiemike.tumblr.com/post/170494515126/ovaltine-stainedIf you consider the symbols on Miriam to prevent the spread of the Curse as confirming Enocian is in game then it's confirmed. Check the above link. Also, here is some text from an old Kickstarter update.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jul 12, 2018 13:45:20 GMT -6
I happen to have Laycock's Enochian Dictionary on hand. This could prove terribly fun!
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Post by Wally on Sept 26, 2018 23:53:17 GMT -6
Ideally I want a mage character. Alfred seems like he is the only one that fits the bill, but I would take someone like Dominique if she was a mage substitute. And I am talking about full on magic like Sypha, Yoko, or Charlotte.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Sept 27, 2018 10:18:39 GMT -6
Ideally I want a mage character. Alfred seems like he is the only one that fits the bill, but I would take someone like Dominique if she was a mage substitute. And I am talking about full on magic like Sypha, Yoko, or Charlotte. Welcome to Team Alfred.
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Post by Dragon_of_Dojima on Oct 15, 2018 21:08:31 GMT -6
After playing as the old man in Curse of the Moon, I'm going to say no. As fun as he COULD be, the other characters out-shined him too much. Magic and alchemy potential is not lost on me though.
I'm putting my vote for Gebel and especially Zangetsu for sure though.
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Post by Galamoth on Oct 15, 2018 22:16:42 GMT -6
Dragon_of_Dojima Fair enough, friend. His options for movement are comparatively lackluster in CotM (though he can use "Frostcalibur" to freeze objects & enemies into platforms... and apparently it is actually possible to complete most, if not all, of the Stages as Alfred by himself). And, as is intended (and expected), Alfred is almost completely-reliant on Spells; some of which can offer the highest potential damage-output but burn through MP/"weapon points" rather quickly. His basic melee attack offers very little. So yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I still think Alfred could be great as a playable character due to some possible gameplay differences in RoTN from his playstyle in CotM, such as his "basic" melee attack using magical Tomes rather than whacking with a cane/club (making him somewhat "Charlotte"-esque). Maybe one of his movement options could be levitation similar to Stella & Loretta from Portrait of Ruin, as well as Barlowe in his boss-fight from Order of Ecclesia. ^ Heck, they could even use a similar concept to the Spellbooks from Harmony of Dissonance, and have Alfred's chosen Spell Tome on his pause menu affect his various "Up + Attack", Shoulder Button, or Directional "sub-weapon" options. Addendum: Now I feel I should brainstorm what kind of equipment pieces that Alfred could uniquely wear (like "cloaks" for Gebel, perhaps).
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Post by Dragon_of_Dojima on Oct 18, 2018 13:42:46 GMT -6
I'd laugh HARD if that old man could fly. But really, I'd be more convinced if I saw how he moved in the full game. I'm all for more playable options. Hell, I'm still mad that Hammer wasn't playable in Dawn of Sorrow(another grievance I have with that game). A heavily expanded "Grant" character would have been amazing.
If anything, I feel like Johannes could fill in Alfred's hypothetical role(assuming they don't pull the Johan was evil all along and Alfred was just misunderstood story card) by having his magic have loads of potential while still having alright-ish offensive/defensive non-magic options. I'm not against the old man making it in as playable, but I wouldn't want to play as him.
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