Post by batfamiliar on Apr 19, 2017 2:56:54 GMT -6
Hello & salaam to my fellow bloodstained community members!
I remember reading that both the lesser key of Solomon and alchemy will play a part in bloodstained. Both of those have roots in the Islamic empire during the medieval period.
the lesser key of Solomon is based on such sources. In the Quran, King Solomon rules over both Jinn and Animals, and has powerful Efrit confined and under his control. This is also mentioned in 1001 Arabian Nights.
Alchemy has very Near Eastern (as well as South Asian) roots. The alchemist Geber is actually Abū Muḥammad Jābir ibn Aflaḥ, or Jabir. We get our word elixir from his Al Iksir, a red sulphuric powder used to transmutate base metals to gold.
I love Iga, and have been listening to his interviews. I get that it's set in London, but does the inclusion of Geber & mentions of lesser key of Solomon mean there may be some Jinns or Eastern touches in there?
I hope so but I don't mind if not. I would love it if there was an Arab/Brown or Muslim character though. I also love jinns (grew up on Jinn stories).
Post by Enkeria Gin on Apr 19, 2017 5:32:59 GMT -6
Welcome to the forums, if it ain't much trouble, I would like to know more about Jinn.
Genie, Jinn, Djinn or Gin (ehm....) - Have different styles, different stories. But what I have understand thus far is that Jinn, the demon, was an entity born of fire, and pure evil.
While not getting into religion too much, as the forums is a neutral ground for all beliefes, I hope you would like to share the demons treats, the stories and the idea behind what man can do to survive these. And also, if you have the energy, let us know creative ways to actually make this happen in Bloodstained. Like, where are the crystals, how would the Jinn behave and such.
In short, create a monster, and share what you know. Would be awesome!!
Edit: Create an alchemy, create characters. Or form what we already have!
Post by batfamiliar on Apr 20, 2017 10:44:12 GMT -6
Hey thanks for your reply!
Would love to tell you more about Jinn! J-N, the arabic root, means "hidden." According to Pre-Islamic sources, as well as the Qur'an, Jinn are hidden beings, with free will. Saying a Jinn a demon is unfair. Jinns are not bad, the way the demons in the bible are evil.
There are many nations, kingdoms, societies and religions in the world of Jinn. There are Jewish, Hindu, Muslim and atheist Jinns. According to religious sources, Jinns are made of fire/the light of lightning, and humans are made out of clay.
How I imagine this all coming together is through Alchemy. Jinns in their world have other substances unknown to man. Thinks like Red Sulfur (Red King), or other transmutational materials could be obtained from the realm of Jinn.
My personal hope is Bloodstained tells a very global story, as Alchemy is a global phenomenon. My favorite Iga games (Dawn & Aria of Sorrow) are fun because you get to play a Japanese college kid who somehow ends up in an ancient vampire's castle. I get that Bloodstained takes place in England, but the world was small at that point. Small enough for eldritch wisdom from the Greeks to be passed to the Muslims to then end up in the hands of Alchemists in England.
Throughout the stories of 1001 Arabian Nights, & oral traditions from Algeria to China,
batfamiliar While drawing from the Lesser Key is an absolute certainty for demonic enemies (considering the vast majority of them will be demons for Miriam obtain Shards from), I'm sure that many of the enemies [and some Familiars] will be inspired by various mythologies.
This game may take place in England, but the setting has never stopped IGA from allowing mythical creatures the-world-over from appearing in past Castlevania games.
For example: How did a Jiangshi end up in Transylvania? (Order of Ecclesia)
Curse you, Alucard!
Devin R. Lowe from the Bloodstained Kickstarter page.
Post by batfamiliar on Apr 25, 2017 5:51:13 GMT -6
Yes a Jinn familiar!! That would be sick.
Basically I love Jinns! I want Jinns in the game !!
sorry about getting heady, everyone. Haha
I still can't resist because I picked up a great book on Jinns (ts called World of Jinn by Amira El-Zein, who is a visiting professor at Georgetown University. The book is a thorough klook at Jinn, Ghoul, and the various intermediaries between realms.
The Philosophers Stone in Arabic is called Al Iksar (Elixer)., Key of Solomon is inspired by Solomon's court of Jinns, from my research.
Goobsausage: Meanwhile in Japan, Iga is watching old game-shaped Kraft Macaroni commercials and thinking "...Bloodstained needs its own macaroni!"
Apr 24, 2017 13:05:23 GMT -6
purifyweirdsoul: We can only hope. That or the cereal. Perhaps both
Apr 24, 2017 13:33:16 GMT -6
emokkon: Is there a board about the new game plus features
Apr 25, 2017 5:32:37 GMT -6
XombieMike: Nope. It's been mentioned, but never a dedicated thread. At least the search feature doesn't find one.
Apr 25, 2017 7:05:13 GMT -6
purifyweirdsoul: Hm...no, I don't think we've had a focused discussion for just that, iirc. Would be a good one to start
Apr 25, 2017 8:00:39 GMT -6
Scuttlest: Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite got its first Story Trailer today.
Apr 25, 2017 9:18:35 GMT -6
Scuttlest: Actually looks like a decently interesting plot. But I'm a little gun shy with Capcom's fighting game crossovers after SFxT.
Apr 25, 2017 9:19:23 GMT -6
Galamoth: I'm only into MvCI for Mega Man X. No other character, really.
Apr 25, 2017 10:06:03 GMT -6
purifyweirdsoul: Well, since Ultron Sigma is known as the villain now, that's more reason to be into it as an X fan. That's a really cool idea and I'm glad they went with it. SFxT may have been rough, but UMvC3 and TvC were great.
Apr 25, 2017 10:07:59 GMT -6
purifyweirdsoul: And even SFxT ended up pretty good imo
Apr 25, 2017 10:08:08 GMT -6
Scuttlest: Imo, SFxT was a kind of glitch mess which had some of Capcom's most questionable DLC practices put into it. Especially the pay-to-win gems.
Apr 25, 2017 10:11:00 GMT -6
Galamoth: Unless... Sigma will be playable.
Apr 25, 2017 10:13:38 GMT -6
Scuttlest: He is, though the trailer made it look like he's a pre-order bonus.
Apr 25, 2017 10:14:13 GMT -6
Galamoth: Then I'll play both X and Sigma almost exclusively.
Apr 25, 2017 10:14:16 GMT -6
Scuttlest: Hold on, I'll post the story trailer in the MvCI thread if no one has done that yet.
Apr 25, 2017 10:14:38 GMT -6
Galamoth: I have already.
Apr 25, 2017 10:14:55 GMT -6
Scuttlest: I will not rest until I've had my VENGEANCE.
Apr 25, 2017 10:15:30 GMT -6
purifyweirdsoul: That's all true, though the actual fighting game of SFxT got great in the 2012 patch. It felt like an older Capcom fighting game. We used the default gem sets too, so that DLC wasn't really an issue
Apr 25, 2017 10:22:26 GMT -6
purifyweirdsoul: Hopefully Injustice 2 is careful with its gear system, to not be much like how the gems were. That could be a problem
Apr 25, 2017 10:23:21 GMT -6