Post by pushpaka on Mar 18, 2016 7:01:45 GMT -6
Early in this thread, someone had given a large list of weapons from legend and myth that they wished to see included. That was great, and I'd like to see in addition to that, weapons out of fiction just like in Castlevania SOTN (someone on that development team must have been a big '70s - '80s fantasy buff).
Offhand here are the fictional equipment that I can remember from Symphony of the Night:
Terminus Est - this was the mercury-filled, ornate and master-crafted executioner sword from Gene Wolfe's Books of the New Sun series.
Sword of the Dawn - this was the magical weapon in far future Europe that summons cavemen-like Dawn Warriors. From Michael Moorcock's Hawkmoon series.
Dragonhelm - Possibly. If it is, then this helmet is one of the symbols of royalty owned by the Melnibonean Emperors, including Elric himself. From Michael Moorcock's Elric saga.
Mournblade - This is a demonically possessed, soul-stealing sword forged to kill gods and it's the twin of the more infamous Stormbringer. From Michael Moorcock's Elric saga.
Plenty more especially from Tolkien's Middle Earth, including the Fists of Tulkas and etc.
So I'd like to see these fictional nods come up again and perhaps include things like:
Traitor - this cursed sword from the far future was forged in a hybrid mix of swordsmithing of Prince Corum's own Vadhag heritage and local humans. Traitor could cut through almost anything with little effort, but it had tendency to be caught up in situations that caused the death of Corum's friends. From Michael Moorcock's Corum series.
Kanajana - another Moorcock invention. This is an elf-killing sword made out of radioactive material, it generated a killing field around a certain radius and only a particular incarnation of the Eternal Champion can safely use it. From Michael Moorcock's Erekose stories.
Changeling - this alien battlesword is actually a piece of dimension Gate technology and it can open a dimensional rift that sucks anyone nearby into it. From C. J. Cherrynh's Morgaine series.
Anglachel - From Tolkien. This traitorous sword made of meteoric iron was forged by the dark elf Eol, a smith who was even better than the dwarven masters he trained under. Anglachel eventually ends up being the weapon that its last owner kills himself with.
Draugnapir - Yeah it's named after Odin's arm ring that drops 9 rings every night. In the Malazan novels, this is the name of an Elder God-forged black sword that sucked its victim's body and soul into a hellish prison where they're chained to a wagon and forever trying to drag themselves away from oblivion (in this case an incarnation of Chaos that devours reality). From Steve Erikson's Malazan Books of the Fallen.
Memory, Thorn and Sorrow - these 3 magic swords were actually the key to the villain's plans and not the weapons for defeating him as believed. From Tad Williams's Memory, Thorn and Sorrow
Athame - similar to Changeling above. This is a far future weapon that cuts through anything by creating a dimensional rift as its blade. It's loosely part of the same setting as Terminus Est. From Gene Wolfe's Books of the Long Sun.
Stormbringer - if you have Mournblade, then why not bring over its brother. From Michael Moorcock's Elric Saga.
Three Bladed Sword - This magic weapon is from the B movie The Sword and the Sorceror, and was notorious for its impractical but awesome design and for its power to shoot out its blade like a rocket.
The Atlantean Sword - The movies and dopey TV series made much of this, but in the books this was the weapon found by a young Conan in the crypt of a nameless Atlantean king. It was one of the first weapons made of iron and despite years of neglect and bits of rust, it was still a fairly formidable non-magical weapon (AND EXPENDABLE, Conan quickly goes for something contemporary and made of steel when he gets the chance). From Robert E Howard's Conan.
The Elephant-Killer - This is the axe that's wielded by Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer. This gigantic battle axe with a shape influenced by a scythe, finally got a name when some writer wrote novels about the Death Dealer.
Sacnoth - This sword is made from the spine and eye of a previously indestructible dragon. The sword Sacnoth was used in the PS1 game Koudelka and was the original name of the makers (they then made the Shadow Hearts series). From Lord Dunsany's short story "The Fortress Impenetrable Save for Sacnoth".
Ice - The Starks' famous black great sword. From George R.R Martin's Song of Fire and Ice.
The twin crossbow - This two shot crossbow was used by the protagonist Waylander. From David Gemell's Waylander trilogy.
The Cwellan - This was a unique, crossbow-like weapon invented by the assassin, Achmed. A devastating weapon, it shot 3 razor-ship metal discs at a time and easily capable of taking off a limb. From Elizabeth Haydon's Symphony of the Ages series.
Brainbiter - This is the battle-axe of the Slaine, the Irish High King. Between it and his warp-spasms, Slaine regularly offed foes by the hundreds per day. From Pat Mills comic Slaine.
The Hammer of Kings - This warhammer from the future was the weapon of generations of human emperors. It not only hit with tremendous force, but it also creates a force dome that successfully blocked a magic sword that otherwise cuts through any material with ease. From Pat Mills comic Nemesis the Warlock.
The Diskarmor - Since the game features whips, well one of the most iconic whip-like weapons is the Diskarmor from Rygar. Essentially a buzzsaw from the gods, mounted on a chain it was a fantastic weapon with some interesting moves especially for the mid-'80s.
The Monk's chained axe, spear, and snake weapon - from '80s arcade game Tiger Road, these 3 weapons offered a nice balance where you traded weapon arc/coverage for attack speed. In any case all 3 offered a change from the standard sword of the day.
The whip weapon from Black Tiger - Another arcade blast from '80s. I think it was from Romstar or something, this was a series of whip weapons that the hero Black Tiger could buy and eventually led to a fireball on a whip. The interesting thing about the whip, was that it was as much a missile weapon as melee (all the Black Tiger whips shot out a spread of 3 daggers).
Ghal Maraz - the weapon that essentially started the ball rolling for Games Workshop. This is the dwarven warhammer used by human god Sigmar. From Warhammer.
Holy Win Sword - the weapon built out of the holy symbol of Lea Monde. This is from Square's Vagrant Story
that sword used by Raven - Raven was the swordmistress of Chaos and was the heroine from an '80s sword and sorcery series of the same name. Her sword was unnamed, but the blade was made of the finest steel and it had a very huge emerald set in it to give it an impressive appearance. From Robert Holdstock aka Richard Kirk's Raven series.
Hand of Light - these are the ridiculously long maces that were used by the 3 minotaur bosses in Vagrant Story. Their range rivaled and in some cases, exceeded those of the crossbows that Ashley Riot used.
The Adamantine Sickle - Okay this one is actually from Greek Mythology and has a lot of pedigree. Originally given to Cronus the Titan by the Earth goddess Gaia, Cronus used it to castrate the sky god Ouranos. Cronus's son Zeus would later use it in a fight against the monster Typhon, and Zeus would screw that up badly (Typhon disarms him and uses the admantine sickle to cut out Zeus's sinews, leaving the king of the gods helpless). Finally in some stories, the sickle was given to Perseus as one of the tools used in cutting off Medusa's head.
The Fire Sword from Rastan/Fire Sword and Thunder Sword from Magic Sword - this flaming sword was THE WEAPON in the arcade game Rastan. It shot fireballs with each swing (for Bloodstained this can be done with SOTN's joystick moves) . In a similar vein, there was near-ultimate weapon Fire Sword for Capcom's arcade game Magic Sword and the ultimate weapon the Thunder Sword. Respectively they shot large fireballs and huge bolts of lightning when your magic gauge was full and you swung your sword.
throwing stars - the generic throwing star/shuriken. Nothing says '80s British video games like a broadsword wielding barbarian using shurikens, while running around in a world out of a Roger Dean album cover.
Heck many of the designs of real-world weapons (and otherwise like the siege bow or Destroyer) looked really good in Vagrant Story and still hold up well to this day.
Offhand here are the fictional equipment that I can remember from Symphony of the Night:
Terminus Est - this was the mercury-filled, ornate and master-crafted executioner sword from Gene Wolfe's Books of the New Sun series.
Sword of the Dawn - this was the magical weapon in far future Europe that summons cavemen-like Dawn Warriors. From Michael Moorcock's Hawkmoon series.
Dragonhelm - Possibly. If it is, then this helmet is one of the symbols of royalty owned by the Melnibonean Emperors, including Elric himself. From Michael Moorcock's Elric saga.
Mournblade - This is a demonically possessed, soul-stealing sword forged to kill gods and it's the twin of the more infamous Stormbringer. From Michael Moorcock's Elric saga.
Plenty more especially from Tolkien's Middle Earth, including the Fists of Tulkas and etc.
So I'd like to see these fictional nods come up again and perhaps include things like:
Traitor - this cursed sword from the far future was forged in a hybrid mix of swordsmithing of Prince Corum's own Vadhag heritage and local humans. Traitor could cut through almost anything with little effort, but it had tendency to be caught up in situations that caused the death of Corum's friends. From Michael Moorcock's Corum series.
Kanajana - another Moorcock invention. This is an elf-killing sword made out of radioactive material, it generated a killing field around a certain radius and only a particular incarnation of the Eternal Champion can safely use it. From Michael Moorcock's Erekose stories.
Changeling - this alien battlesword is actually a piece of dimension Gate technology and it can open a dimensional rift that sucks anyone nearby into it. From C. J. Cherrynh's Morgaine series.
Anglachel - From Tolkien. This traitorous sword made of meteoric iron was forged by the dark elf Eol, a smith who was even better than the dwarven masters he trained under. Anglachel eventually ends up being the weapon that its last owner kills himself with.
Draugnapir - Yeah it's named after Odin's arm ring that drops 9 rings every night. In the Malazan novels, this is the name of an Elder God-forged black sword that sucked its victim's body and soul into a hellish prison where they're chained to a wagon and forever trying to drag themselves away from oblivion (in this case an incarnation of Chaos that devours reality). From Steve Erikson's Malazan Books of the Fallen.
Memory, Thorn and Sorrow - these 3 magic swords were actually the key to the villain's plans and not the weapons for defeating him as believed. From Tad Williams's Memory, Thorn and Sorrow
Athame - similar to Changeling above. This is a far future weapon that cuts through anything by creating a dimensional rift as its blade. It's loosely part of the same setting as Terminus Est. From Gene Wolfe's Books of the Long Sun.
Stormbringer - if you have Mournblade, then why not bring over its brother. From Michael Moorcock's Elric Saga.
Three Bladed Sword - This magic weapon is from the B movie The Sword and the Sorceror, and was notorious for its impractical but awesome design and for its power to shoot out its blade like a rocket.
The Atlantean Sword - The movies and dopey TV series made much of this, but in the books this was the weapon found by a young Conan in the crypt of a nameless Atlantean king. It was one of the first weapons made of iron and despite years of neglect and bits of rust, it was still a fairly formidable non-magical weapon (AND EXPENDABLE, Conan quickly goes for something contemporary and made of steel when he gets the chance). From Robert E Howard's Conan.
The Elephant-Killer - This is the axe that's wielded by Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer. This gigantic battle axe with a shape influenced by a scythe, finally got a name when some writer wrote novels about the Death Dealer.
Sacnoth - This sword is made from the spine and eye of a previously indestructible dragon. The sword Sacnoth was used in the PS1 game Koudelka and was the original name of the makers (they then made the Shadow Hearts series). From Lord Dunsany's short story "The Fortress Impenetrable Save for Sacnoth".
Ice - The Starks' famous black great sword. From George R.R Martin's Song of Fire and Ice.
The twin crossbow - This two shot crossbow was used by the protagonist Waylander. From David Gemell's Waylander trilogy.
The Cwellan - This was a unique, crossbow-like weapon invented by the assassin, Achmed. A devastating weapon, it shot 3 razor-ship metal discs at a time and easily capable of taking off a limb. From Elizabeth Haydon's Symphony of the Ages series.
Brainbiter - This is the battle-axe of the Slaine, the Irish High King. Between it and his warp-spasms, Slaine regularly offed foes by the hundreds per day. From Pat Mills comic Slaine.
The Hammer of Kings - This warhammer from the future was the weapon of generations of human emperors. It not only hit with tremendous force, but it also creates a force dome that successfully blocked a magic sword that otherwise cuts through any material with ease. From Pat Mills comic Nemesis the Warlock.
The Diskarmor - Since the game features whips, well one of the most iconic whip-like weapons is the Diskarmor from Rygar. Essentially a buzzsaw from the gods, mounted on a chain it was a fantastic weapon with some interesting moves especially for the mid-'80s.
The Monk's chained axe, spear, and snake weapon - from '80s arcade game Tiger Road, these 3 weapons offered a nice balance where you traded weapon arc/coverage for attack speed. In any case all 3 offered a change from the standard sword of the day.
The whip weapon from Black Tiger - Another arcade blast from '80s. I think it was from Romstar or something, this was a series of whip weapons that the hero Black Tiger could buy and eventually led to a fireball on a whip. The interesting thing about the whip, was that it was as much a missile weapon as melee (all the Black Tiger whips shot out a spread of 3 daggers).
Ghal Maraz - the weapon that essentially started the ball rolling for Games Workshop. This is the dwarven warhammer used by human god Sigmar. From Warhammer.
Holy Win Sword - the weapon built out of the holy symbol of Lea Monde. This is from Square's Vagrant Story
that sword used by Raven - Raven was the swordmistress of Chaos and was the heroine from an '80s sword and sorcery series of the same name. Her sword was unnamed, but the blade was made of the finest steel and it had a very huge emerald set in it to give it an impressive appearance. From Robert Holdstock aka Richard Kirk's Raven series.
Hand of Light - these are the ridiculously long maces that were used by the 3 minotaur bosses in Vagrant Story. Their range rivaled and in some cases, exceeded those of the crossbows that Ashley Riot used.
The Adamantine Sickle - Okay this one is actually from Greek Mythology and has a lot of pedigree. Originally given to Cronus the Titan by the Earth goddess Gaia, Cronus used it to castrate the sky god Ouranos. Cronus's son Zeus would later use it in a fight against the monster Typhon, and Zeus would screw that up badly (Typhon disarms him and uses the admantine sickle to cut out Zeus's sinews, leaving the king of the gods helpless). Finally in some stories, the sickle was given to Perseus as one of the tools used in cutting off Medusa's head.
The Fire Sword from Rastan/Fire Sword and Thunder Sword from Magic Sword - this flaming sword was THE WEAPON in the arcade game Rastan. It shot fireballs with each swing (for Bloodstained this can be done with SOTN's joystick moves) . In a similar vein, there was near-ultimate weapon Fire Sword for Capcom's arcade game Magic Sword and the ultimate weapon the Thunder Sword. Respectively they shot large fireballs and huge bolts of lightning when your magic gauge was full and you swung your sword.
throwing stars - the generic throwing star/shuriken. Nothing says '80s British video games like a broadsword wielding barbarian using shurikens, while running around in a world out of a Roger Dean album cover.
Heck many of the designs of real-world weapons (and otherwise like the siege bow or Destroyer) looked really good in Vagrant Story and still hold up well to this day.